Chronic Pain Therapists in Green Lake County, WI

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Clinical Services- Wisconsin Rapids
Drug & Alcohol Counselor, LPC, CSAC, ICS, SAP
Verified Verified
Thank you for looking at my profile! Working in the counseling field for 28 years, the areas of concern that I have frequently seen are concerns of anxiety,depression, substance use, grief and loss, trauma, chronic pain and family/relationship issues. I provide a warm, safe environment to help you find a way to put the puzzle pieces of your life together to form the beautiful picture that you are. I work with individuals, couples and families using a variety of approaches including: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Client Focused and Solution Focused therapy.
Thank you for looking at my profile! Working in the counseling field for 28 years, the areas of concern that I have frequently seen are concerns of anxiety,depression, substance use, grief and loss, trauma, chronic pain and family/relationship issues. I provide a warm, safe environment to help you find a way to put the puzzle pieces of your life together to form the beautiful picture that you are. I work with individuals, couples and families using a variety of approaches including: Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Client Focused and Solution Focused therapy.
(715) 718-6040 View (715) 718-6040
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Robin M. West
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW, CSAC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Oshkosh, WI 54901  (Online Only)
It can also help to reduce anxiety, anger and even help reduce chronic pain.
Clearing past trauma can allow you to live, love and pursue your goals in the now rather than living in reaction to the past. Eliminating triggers for using substances can help you get and stay sober.I have used EMDR to help people with just about any MH issue with great success. In addition, I have a background that I feel allows me to be of special help to veterans, emergency responders, survivors of sexual assault and anyone who struggles with shame or guilt for any reason. EMDR in conjunction with Trauma informed guilt reduction therapy can be very healing. See website: rwesttherapy.com
It can also help to reduce anxiety, anger and even help reduce chronic pain.
Clearing past trauma can allow you to live, love and pursue your goals in the now rather than living in reaction to the past. Eliminating triggers for using substances can help you get and stay sober.I have used EMDR to help people with just about any MH issue with great success. In addition, I have a background that I feel allows me to be of special help to veterans, emergency responders, survivors of sexual assault and anyone who struggles with shame or guilt for any reason. EMDR in conjunction with Trauma informed guilt reduction therapy can be very healing. See website: rwesttherapy.com
(920) 216-5078 View (920) 216-5078
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Kal Wogahn
Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
4 Endorsed
Madison, WI 53704  (Online Only)
Do you feel overwhelmed by emotions or physical symptoms, such as hopelessness, pain, or panic? Does the thought of being present with your body feel uncomfortable or even scary? In my work, I help folks of all backgrounds find a sense of safety in their body after experiences of trauma, chronic pain, and body-based oppression (transphobia, anti-fat bias, ableism, racism, etc.). We’ll work together to understand and befriend your nervous system and build upon experiences of safety and connection to promote healing and emotional well-being.
Do you feel overwhelmed by emotions or physical symptoms, such as hopelessness, pain, or panic? Does the thought of being present with your body feel uncomfortable or even scary? In my work, I help folks of all backgrounds find a sense of safety in their body after experiences of trauma, chronic pain, and body-based oppression (transphobia, anti-fat bias, ableism, racism, etc.). We’ll work together to understand and befriend your nervous system and build upon experiences of safety and connection to promote healing and emotional well-being.
(608) 655-6778 View (608) 655-6778
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Karen K Kimball
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Madison, WI 53705
I have found hypnosis to be very helpful in successfully treating insomnia, weight loss, smoking cessation, test anxiety, chronic and injury-related pain, relaxation and anxiety reduction (fear of flying).
I love my work: helping individuals and couples solve problems, grow and flourish. We grow by learning mastery; to me this means being competent in dealing with yourself and the outside world. I help clients do this by gaining self-knowledge and learning the skills necessary to be empowered to reach their goals and improve their most important relationships. Since starting my practice in 1983 I have been dedicated to helping clients achieve mastery. I take a very active role, and do "what works" for each client, using a variety of treatment approaches.
I have found hypnosis to be very helpful in successfully treating insomnia, weight loss, smoking cessation, test anxiety, chronic and injury-related pain, relaxation and anxiety reduction (fear of flying).
I love my work: helping individuals and couples solve problems, grow and flourish. We grow by learning mastery; to me this means being competent in dealing with yourself and the outside world. I help clients do this by gaining self-knowledge and learning the skills necessary to be empowered to reach their goals and improve their most important relationships. Since starting my practice in 1983 I have been dedicated to helping clients achieve mastery. I take a very active role, and do "what works" for each client, using a variety of treatment approaches.
(608) 515-5314 View (608) 515-5314
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Noah Adrians
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Oshkosh, WI 54901
I specialize in using cognitive behavioral approaches and have extensive experience treating PTSD, depression, anxiety, and chronic pain or other health conditions.
Each of us want to find ways to recover from past wounds or change unhelpful habits. We also want to live more fully and joyfully today. I am a psychologist who specializes in offering care to adults struggling with concerns related to depression, anxiety, trauma, chronic illness or pain, grief, and substance use or addiction. I work with you to build a trusting space where we can create change together. We can also explore using the most helpful and evidence-based therapies tailored to meet your goals and needs.
I specialize in using cognitive behavioral approaches and have extensive experience treating PTSD, depression, anxiety, and chronic pain or other health conditions.
Each of us want to find ways to recover from past wounds or change unhelpful habits. We also want to live more fully and joyfully today. I am a psychologist who specializes in offering care to adults struggling with concerns related to depression, anxiety, trauma, chronic illness or pain, grief, and substance use or addiction. I work with you to build a trusting space where we can create change together. We can also explore using the most helpful and evidence-based therapies tailored to meet your goals and needs.
(920) 781-1930 View (920) 781-1930
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Sheila Johnson
Marriage & Family Therapist, MS, LMFT, CSAC, MTBW, SEP
Verified Verified
Verona, WI 53593
It is not uncommon for people to talk and think their way 'better'. They have made sense of their problems and wish to 'just move on'. However, they can't seem to rid themselves of the emotional turmoil and physical pain that remains. My clients say to me, 'I just want to move on but my anxiety, depression, trauma, bad habits, pain, guilt, shame, family members...just won't let me'.
It is not uncommon for people to talk and think their way 'better'. They have made sense of their problems and wish to 'just move on'. However, they can't seem to rid themselves of the emotional turmoil and physical pain that remains. My clients say to me, 'I just want to move on but my anxiety, depression, trauma, bad habits, pain, guilt, shame, family members...just won't let me'.
(608) 472-2433 View (608) 472-2433
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Heather Ann Hodorowski
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPC, MT-BC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Milwaukee, WI 53223  (Online Only)
I work with individual adults with depression, anxiety, grief and loss, medical issues/pain management and suicidality.
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Board-Certified Music Therapist with over 20 years or experience with clients across the lifespan in medical settings and various levels of care in mental and behavioral health. I am a strength-based counselor who takes a person-centered approach and takes the time to develop a strong rapport with my clients. Every client is unique and brings with them their own individual stressors, life circumstances, and stories. I am here to honor that.
I work with individual adults with depression, anxiety, grief and loss, medical issues/pain management and suicidality.
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor and a Board-Certified Music Therapist with over 20 years or experience with clients across the lifespan in medical settings and various levels of care in mental and behavioral health. I am a strength-based counselor who takes a person-centered approach and takes the time to develop a strong rapport with my clients. Every client is unique and brings with them their own individual stressors, life circumstances, and stories. I am here to honor that.
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Susan LeGrand Levine
Counselor, MS, LPC
Verified Verified
Madison, WI 53717
I have specialty training in adoption as well as working with clients dealing with chronic pain.
Because your life is worth my time. I provide non-judgemental, client-centered psychotherapy to children, adolescents, and adults. My focus is solution-oriented and goal-driven. My office is conveniently located off of the West Beltline in Madison. You and I can navigate difficult life challenges and changes with confidence and assurance. I have significant experience as a psychotherapist, having been in practice in Madison, Wisconsin for over 25 years. My clients come to me for issues including depression, anxiety, relational issues, and grief. I offer adoption competent therapy.
I have specialty training in adoption as well as working with clients dealing with chronic pain.
Because your life is worth my time. I provide non-judgemental, client-centered psychotherapy to children, adolescents, and adults. My focus is solution-oriented and goal-driven. My office is conveniently located off of the West Beltline in Madison. You and I can navigate difficult life challenges and changes with confidence and assurance. I have significant experience as a psychotherapist, having been in practice in Madison, Wisconsin for over 25 years. My clients come to me for issues including depression, anxiety, relational issues, and grief. I offer adoption competent therapy.
(608) 208-9869 View (608) 208-9869
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Cindy Anderson-Keene
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Fitchburg, WI 53719  (Online Only)
I believe in empowering people to grow and change, to help them climb out of mental anguish into a life of hope and meaning. I am passionate about my work, but conscientious, as well. I know how hard it is to engage in therapy, how much courage it takes, and that people do so out of a strong need to end their suffering and pain.
I believe in empowering people to grow and change, to help them climb out of mental anguish into a life of hope and meaning. I am passionate about my work, but conscientious, as well. I know how hard it is to engage in therapy, how much courage it takes, and that people do so out of a strong need to end their suffering and pain.
(608) 650-6996 View (608) 650-6996
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Leslie Golden
Clinical Social Work/Therapist
Verified Verified
Madison, WI 53703
Leslie Golden provides individual psychotherapy to adults with an emphasis on exploration, collaboration, and discovery. She addresses a broad range of issues including depression, anxiety, identity, women's issues, interpersonal difficulties, life transitions, and chronic pain and other medical challenges. Leslie works with her patients from a psychodynamic lens to help identify the powerful forces that shape their lives and are often hiding in plain sight.
Leslie Golden provides individual psychotherapy to adults with an emphasis on exploration, collaboration, and discovery. She addresses a broad range of issues including depression, anxiety, identity, women's issues, interpersonal difficulties, life transitions, and chronic pain and other medical challenges. Leslie works with her patients from a psychodynamic lens to help identify the powerful forces that shape their lives and are often hiding in plain sight.
(608) 384-3732 View (608) 384-3732
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Jessica Gutierrez
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, CSAC, ICS, SEP-IT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Monona, WI 53716  (Online Only)
Waitlist for new clients
Hi I'm Jessica! I'm a somatic and IFS-oriented therapist in Madison, WI with over 18 years of experience. My primary specialties are anxiety, panic, trauma, chronic pain as well as supporting those who have difficulties with relationships, communication, self-esteem, boundaries and identity. Other focus areas: life transitions, secondary trauma, chronic stress, burnout, parenting and ADHD. I have a special interest in working with young adults, women, BIPOC, immigrants of color, LGBTQIA+ as well as highly sensitive, intuitive and/or creative people.
Hi I'm Jessica! I'm a somatic and IFS-oriented therapist in Madison, WI with over 18 years of experience. My primary specialties are anxiety, panic, trauma, chronic pain as well as supporting those who have difficulties with relationships, communication, self-esteem, boundaries and identity. Other focus areas: life transitions, secondary trauma, chronic stress, burnout, parenting and ADHD. I have a special interest in working with young adults, women, BIPOC, immigrants of color, LGBTQIA+ as well as highly sensitive, intuitive and/or creative people.
(608) 938-8567 View (608) 938-8567
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Kristen L Vesbach
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, ATR-BC, LPC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Monona, WI 53716
Trained as an art therapist, professional counselor, and brainspotting therapist, I specialize in using an integrated approach to support individuals facing: difficult transitions, difficulty expressing feelings, anxiety, depression, trauma, low self-esteem, creative blocks, perfectionism, grief, women's issues, chronic pain, and high sensitivity (HSP's).
Do you feel overwhelmed by the weight of the world or stuck in a pattern that is not serving you? Have you ever been told that you are too sensitive? If you are hoping to find more meaning in your life and create more of a balance I would love to help you walk through this process. Focusing on strengths, encouraging creativity, and emphasizing the brain/body connection are important factors in finding an authentic balance. "Creativity, which is the expression of our originality, helps us stay mindful that what we bring to the world is completely original and cannot be compared." -Brene Brown
Trained as an art therapist, professional counselor, and brainspotting therapist, I specialize in using an integrated approach to support individuals facing: difficult transitions, difficulty expressing feelings, anxiety, depression, trauma, low self-esteem, creative blocks, perfectionism, grief, women's issues, chronic pain, and high sensitivity (HSP's).
Do you feel overwhelmed by the weight of the world or stuck in a pattern that is not serving you? Have you ever been told that you are too sensitive? If you are hoping to find more meaning in your life and create more of a balance I would love to help you walk through this process. Focusing on strengths, encouraging creativity, and emphasizing the brain/body connection are important factors in finding an authentic balance. "Creativity, which is the expression of our originality, helps us stay mindful that what we bring to the world is completely original and cannot be compared." -Brene Brown
(608) 420-5086 View (608) 420-5086
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Julie Heisler
Marriage & Family Therapist, LCSW, LMFT
Verified Verified
West Allis, WI 53227
Life can be complicated. Congratulations for recognizing that sometimes it helps to have someone to talk with as you navigate your journey. I can't tell you where to go or what to do, but I do believe that together we can figure out the best path forward. I have spent over 30 years working with a wide variety of people from different backgrounds, experiences and circumstances. This therapeutic work has addressed the following: anxiety, depression, parenting, relationships, LGBTQIA+ issues, chronic illness, divorce, bereavement, caregiver stress, and communication skills.
Life can be complicated. Congratulations for recognizing that sometimes it helps to have someone to talk with as you navigate your journey. I can't tell you where to go or what to do, but I do believe that together we can figure out the best path forward. I have spent over 30 years working with a wide variety of people from different backgrounds, experiences and circumstances. This therapeutic work has addressed the following: anxiety, depression, parenting, relationships, LGBTQIA+ issues, chronic illness, divorce, bereavement, caregiver stress, and communication skills.
(262) 546-8998 View (262) 546-8998
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Dorothy Harris
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Brookfield, WI 53005
Dorothy is a Licensed Professional Counselor with vast experience guiding meaningful change in individuals and couples. She obtained her master's degree in Psychology/Community Counseling from Marquette University, and her bachelor's degree in Psychology from Cardinal Stritch University. Dorothy has been practicing since 2004. She specializes in anxiety, depression, PTSD, chronic pain, stress management, grief and loss, and relaxation/biofeedback. Other focus areas include couples counseling, LGBTQ, ADHD/ADD and anger management.
Dorothy is a Licensed Professional Counselor with vast experience guiding meaningful change in individuals and couples. She obtained her master's degree in Psychology/Community Counseling from Marquette University, and her bachelor's degree in Psychology from Cardinal Stritch University. Dorothy has been practicing since 2004. She specializes in anxiety, depression, PTSD, chronic pain, stress management, grief and loss, and relaxation/biofeedback. Other focus areas include couples counseling, LGBTQ, ADHD/ADD and anger management.
(262) 588-4080 View (262) 588-4080
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Jeanne Denney
MA, CCE
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Racine, WI 53403
Waitlist for new clients
I counsel with a whole life perspective developed from working extensively in hospice and eldercare, with illness, death, and grief.
Would you like to transform your life issues into growth and have a deeper connection to your body, health and purpose? I listen with compassion, offer insight, and support you in finding practical solutions for your life issues: depression, anxiety, anger, relationship problems or something else. Over time I will expose you to body-based methods for physical and emotional renewal. Our work might include mindfulness, breath, movement or other body based techniques, which increases self-awareness and empowerment. Finding an understanding of these changes in the context of spirituality is supported if you find this useful.
I counsel with a whole life perspective developed from working extensively in hospice and eldercare, with illness, death, and grief.
Would you like to transform your life issues into growth and have a deeper connection to your body, health and purpose? I listen with compassion, offer insight, and support you in finding practical solutions for your life issues: depression, anxiety, anger, relationship problems or something else. Over time I will expose you to body-based methods for physical and emotional renewal. Our work might include mindfulness, breath, movement or other body based techniques, which increases self-awareness and empowerment. Finding an understanding of these changes in the context of spirituality is supported if you find this useful.
(262) 383-3680 View (262) 383-3680
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Elizabeth Kunz
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, CAPSW, CCLS, EMT-FF
Verified Verified
Middleton, WI 53562  (Online Only)
Providing virtual sessions throughout the entire state of WI, Elizabeth helps to promote coping with the stress and uncertainty of many life situations, including but not limited to hospitalization, illness/diagnosis, trauma, loss, and change. As a patient, you may want someone to share your reality with; as a parent you may want someone to brainstorm ways to communicate difficult subjects to kids/teens; as a caregiver/professional you may want to process. Elizabeth strives to create a confidential and judgement-free space where you will feel supported and know it's okay to bring your authentic self.
Providing virtual sessions throughout the entire state of WI, Elizabeth helps to promote coping with the stress and uncertainty of many life situations, including but not limited to hospitalization, illness/diagnosis, trauma, loss, and change. As a patient, you may want someone to share your reality with; as a parent you may want someone to brainstorm ways to communicate difficult subjects to kids/teens; as a caregiver/professional you may want to process. Elizabeth strives to create a confidential and judgement-free space where you will feel supported and know it's okay to bring your authentic self.
(608) 684-6451 View (608) 684-6451
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Julie M Nelson
Licensed Professional Counselor, MS, LPC
Verified Verified
Wausau, WI 54401
I'm here to offer you the gift of hope. I enjoy helping individuals, couples, and families through various life transitions: loss and grief, hurtful relationships, parenting challenges, life with chronic illness, and improving couple and family communication. I believe in assisting the individual, couple or family to seek solutions by building upon their personal strengths.
I'm here to offer you the gift of hope. I enjoy helping individuals, couples, and families through various life transitions: loss and grief, hurtful relationships, parenting challenges, life with chronic illness, and improving couple and family communication. I believe in assisting the individual, couple or family to seek solutions by building upon their personal strengths.
(715) 203-8238 View (715) 203-8238
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Amal Othman
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Madison, WI 53703
Waitlist for new clients
I provide hypnosis and supportive psychotherapy for addiction, chronic pain, and terminal illness.
Resilience is the capacity to prepare for, recover from, and adapt in the face of stress, challenge or adversity. I provide a brave space for holistic health and well-being. I offer compassionate and integrative counseling to individuals and couples. I explore with you the practice of resilience, the embodiment of wellness, and how to access your innate wisdom to empower yourself and improve the quality of your life. My clinical approach is influenced by Internal Family Systems, somatic psychotherapy, and various relational, cognitive, and behavioral modalities.
I provide hypnosis and supportive psychotherapy for addiction, chronic pain, and terminal illness.
Resilience is the capacity to prepare for, recover from, and adapt in the face of stress, challenge or adversity. I provide a brave space for holistic health and well-being. I offer compassionate and integrative counseling to individuals and couples. I explore with you the practice of resilience, the embodiment of wellness, and how to access your innate wisdom to empower yourself and improve the quality of your life. My clinical approach is influenced by Internal Family Systems, somatic psychotherapy, and various relational, cognitive, and behavioral modalities.
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Robin Block
MS, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Milwaukee, WI 53222
She brings “fresh eyes” to stories of pain told by people affected by life's challenges, mental health and substance abuse issues, and trauma.
Robin believes people are hurting, are worthy of respect, and are doing their best to navigate life. She offers individual and group sessions which use an “all hands on deck” approach and focus on mindfulness, positive regard for self and others, value identification, boundary setting, honesty in recovery, and community building.
She brings “fresh eyes” to stories of pain told by people affected by life's challenges, mental health and substance abuse issues, and trauma.
Robin believes people are hurting, are worthy of respect, and are doing their best to navigate life. She offers individual and group sessions which use an “all hands on deck” approach and focus on mindfulness, positive regard for self and others, value identification, boundary setting, honesty in recovery, and community building.
(414) 404-3970 View (414) 404-3970
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Tara Guden
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Wauwatosa, WI 53213
Often my clients have been in traditional talk therapy but something still felt missing or unaddressed. They come to me looking to deepen their mental and emotional well being with something more. Most of my clients struggle with anxiety, perfectionism, people pleasing, and/or boundary setting. Nearly all of my clients have experienced something in their lives that's left them changed in some way such as unhealthy romantic relationships, chronic illness, or a traumatic childhood.
Often my clients have been in traditional talk therapy but something still felt missing or unaddressed. They come to me looking to deepen their mental and emotional well being with something more. Most of my clients struggle with anxiety, perfectionism, people pleasing, and/or boundary setting. Nearly all of my clients have experienced something in their lives that's left them changed in some way such as unhealthy romantic relationships, chronic illness, or a traumatic childhood.
(414) 810-2552 View (414) 810-2552

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Chronic Pain Therapists

How does chronic pain therapy work?

Engaging with a psychotherapist to help treat chronic pain does not mean that one’s pain is all in their head. Therapy for chronic-pain patients has been shown to benefit both the mind and the body, targeting physical symptoms and increasing daily functioning. In other words, for many, addressing their emotional health through therapy affects their physical health. A therapist can help a client challenge unhelpful thoughts about pain and develop new ways to respond to it, such as distraction or calming breathing techniques. Studies have found that therapy can be as effective as surgery for certain cases of chronic pain and many doctors recommend trying psychotherapy in advance of considering invasive surgery.

What are the most effective treatment options for chronic pain?

Stress, anxiety, depression, catastrophizing, ruminating, lack of activity, and social withdrawal all make chronic pain worse. Addressing these issues, research shows, can help people gain control over their pain symptoms. Therapeutic approaches such as cognitive behavioral therapy, biofeedback, and mindfulness-based stress reduction, along with greater pain-management education, have been found to help people reduce fear and disability.

Are there new treatments for chronic pain?

Many cases of chronic pain, particularly those involving back pain, remain medically unexplained. But there is evidence that changes in the brain or nervous system are caused by previous physical ailments such as tissue damage; in such cases, the brain may continue to send out pain signals despite the physical cause having healed. To aid patients under these circumstances, a recently developed treatment known as pain reprocessing therapy (PRT) is designed to help the brain “unlearn” this response. A PRT practitioner helps individuals to reduce the “threat value” of their ongoing pain signals until they can reappraise them as less threatening and fear-inducing. They also help an individual to develop new emotional regulation skills.

How long does therapy for chronic pain take?

There is no set timeline for recovery from chronic pain, especially as there may be a range of physical and psychological causes for any individual’s discomfort, but most patients should expect to see a therapist for a number of weeks or months, typically spanning at least 12 sessions. Studies of pain reprocessing therapy found that many individuals’ experience of pain lessened in eight sessions over four weeks.