Spirituality Therapists in Rocky Mount, VA

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Angela N Mitchell
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Rocky Mount, VA 24151
My private practice serves individuals from toddlers to adults. I specialize in Trauma & Attachment; provide services for issues such as: neglect, physical/sexual abuse, trauma, emotional, behavior and mood disorders. Also work with those experiencing school, home & child care problems. Adult specialties: individual, couples & family counseling; divorce, anger management, DV, sub abuse exposure, and trauma solution. I have extensive experience working with those who are trying to cope within the Child Welfare system. I will work with the court system, provide expert testimony, attend IEPs and/or FPM's if needed, at additional rates.
My private practice serves individuals from toddlers to adults. I specialize in Trauma & Attachment; provide services for issues such as: neglect, physical/sexual abuse, trauma, emotional, behavior and mood disorders. Also work with those experiencing school, home & child care problems. Adult specialties: individual, couples & family counseling; divorce, anger management, DV, sub abuse exposure, and trauma solution. I have extensive experience working with those who are trying to cope within the Child Welfare system. I will work with the court system, provide expert testimony, attend IEPs and/or FPM's if needed, at additional rates.
(540) 657-3153 View (540) 657-3153
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Gavra Carden
Pre-Licensed Professional, LMHP-R
Verified Verified
Rocky Mount, VA 24151
My name is Gavra Carden, and I am a resident in Counseling, with over 8 years of experience in the mental health field working with diverse populations. I strive to provide a compassionate and confidential environment for clients to explore past and present experiences while offering skilled interventions to cope with life’s many stresses. I believe individuals can move toward healing and growth, when provided with support. I offer a collaborative and transparent approach to therapy, working together with you to create goals aligning with your unique experiences and lifestyle.
My name is Gavra Carden, and I am a resident in Counseling, with over 8 years of experience in the mental health field working with diverse populations. I strive to provide a compassionate and confidential environment for clients to explore past and present experiences while offering skilled interventions to cope with life’s many stresses. I believe individuals can move toward healing and growth, when provided with support. I offer a collaborative and transparent approach to therapy, working together with you to create goals aligning with your unique experiences and lifestyle.
(540) 515-5740 View (540) 515-5740
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Jeff Letchford
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, CSAC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Rocky Mount, VA 24151
Providing a non-judgmental environment meeting you with openness, fairness, dignity, and respect is Jeff’s main goal as he helps to build your emotional resilience. Together engaging in therapy that will best support your needs, utilizing your personal strengths, goals, and creating appropriate strategies to help you succeed. Jeff honors the connection between mind, body and spirit; recognizing the holistic view of the client’s needs. Jeff provides quality services to adolescents and adults struggling with trauma, anxiety, depression, addiction, life transitions, and other issues that may bring them to therapy.
Providing a non-judgmental environment meeting you with openness, fairness, dignity, and respect is Jeff’s main goal as he helps to build your emotional resilience. Together engaging in therapy that will best support your needs, utilizing your personal strengths, goals, and creating appropriate strategies to help you succeed. Jeff honors the connection between mind, body and spirit; recognizing the holistic view of the client’s needs. Jeff provides quality services to adolescents and adults struggling with trauma, anxiety, depression, addiction, life transitions, and other issues that may bring them to therapy.
(540) 302-2961 View (540) 302-2961
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Trasie Phillips
Clinical Social Work/Therapist
Verified Verified
Rocky Mount, VA 24151  (Online Only)
License Independent Clinical Social Worker, in Washington State (2013), California (2019) and Virginia (2020) to present. 30 years of social work experience. I can help with with Child& Family Services, drugs treatment and recovery, 12 steps and inpatient treatment from a Christian view. Family Dynamics, and high-risk relationships, with high-risk families. I worked as a Military Family Life Consultant (MFLC), also I provided services as a VA therapist and social worker. I am certified as a YWCA, Domestic Violence, counselor. I use many modalities including Mindfulness, DBT, CBT, PTSD, combat PTSD.
License Independent Clinical Social Worker, in Washington State (2013), California (2019) and Virginia (2020) to present. 30 years of social work experience. I can help with with Child& Family Services, drugs treatment and recovery, 12 steps and inpatient treatment from a Christian view. Family Dynamics, and high-risk relationships, with high-risk families. I worked as a Military Family Life Consultant (MFLC), also I provided services as a VA therapist and social worker. I am certified as a YWCA, Domestic Violence, counselor. I use many modalities including Mindfulness, DBT, CBT, PTSD, combat PTSD.
(571) 240-4014 View (571) 240-4014
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Jennifer Schalow
Licensed Professional Counselor
Verified Verified
Rocky Mount, VA 24151  (Online Only)
Jennifer brings diverse personal experiences and cultural backgrounds into her role as a holistic clinician. With roots in Sioux Native American heritage and a family that spans from Hispanic to Black American culture with spiritual and cultural traditions, she understands the profound importance of connection through emotions in the human experience. Jennifer doesn't view her clients as mere cases to diagnose but as individuals, each carrying their unique stories and wounds in need of genuine human healing. Be assured of being heard and affirmed in what you feel, knowing that beneath the surface of our diverse identities
Jennifer brings diverse personal experiences and cultural backgrounds into her role as a holistic clinician. With roots in Sioux Native American heritage and a family that spans from Hispanic to Black American culture with spiritual and cultural traditions, she understands the profound importance of connection through emotions in the human experience. Jennifer doesn't view her clients as mere cases to diagnose but as individuals, each carrying their unique stories and wounds in need of genuine human healing. Be assured of being heard and affirmed in what you feel, knowing that beneath the surface of our diverse identities
(757) 384-1092 View (757) 384-1092
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Cary-Grace James
Pre-Licensed Professional, MSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Rocky Mount, VA 24151
Waitlist for new clients
Are you facing a life change, hardship, or grief? Do you find yourself feeling distressed about the past or anxious about the future? Are you a parent needing extra support or seeking support for your child? Finding the right therapist for you is a great first step, and I am glad you're here!
Are you facing a life change, hardship, or grief? Do you find yourself feeling distressed about the past or anxious about the future? Are you a parent needing extra support or seeking support for your child? Finding the right therapist for you is a great first step, and I am glad you're here!
(540) 530-4789 View (540) 530-4789
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ABT Counseling Roanoke and Salem Offices
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC, LMFT
Verified Verified
Rocky Mount, VA 24151
We are an outpatient mental health practice in Roanoke, Salem, Blacksburg, Daleville, and Floyd, Virginia, dedicated to helping patients overcome emotional problems using counseling techniques that promote more rapid recovery than traditional non-directive therapy. Everyone goes through challenging situations, and while you may have successfully navigated through other difficulties you’ve faced, there’s nothing wrong with seeking out extra support when needed. Therapy provides long-lasting benefits and support, giving you the tools you need to avoid triggers, re-direct damaging patterns, and overcome whatever challenges you face.
We are an outpatient mental health practice in Roanoke, Salem, Blacksburg, Daleville, and Floyd, Virginia, dedicated to helping patients overcome emotional problems using counseling techniques that promote more rapid recovery than traditional non-directive therapy. Everyone goes through challenging situations, and while you may have successfully navigated through other difficulties you’ve faced, there’s nothing wrong with seeking out extra support when needed. Therapy provides long-lasting benefits and support, giving you the tools you need to avoid triggers, re-direct damaging patterns, and overcome whatever challenges you face.
(540) 215-7423 View (540) 215-7423

More Therapists Nearby

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Donna Adams
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Ferrum, VA 24088
Welcome! My name is Donna Adams and I am a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of Virginia with over 31 years of experience. I work with all ages, races and genders. I work with people who find the need to have assistance with regulating their world so that they are able to focus and balance themselves on a daily basis. My areas of focus include ADHD, anger management, behavioral issues, family conflict, and relationship issues. I work with each person on their level, and I do not assume that a certain therapeutic concept will work for anyone.
Welcome! My name is Donna Adams and I am a Licensed Professional Counselor in the state of Virginia with over 31 years of experience. I work with all ages, races and genders. I work with people who find the need to have assistance with regulating their world so that they are able to focus and balance themselves on a daily basis. My areas of focus include ADHD, anger management, behavioral issues, family conflict, and relationship issues. I work with each person on their level, and I do not assume that a certain therapeutic concept will work for anyone.
(757) 979-3582 View (757) 979-3582

Online Therapists

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Alchemy Counseling and Consulting
Licensed Professional Counselor, PhD, LPC, LMHC
Verified Verified
Roanoke, VA 24015
My approach to counseling is eclectic – I like to select theories and techniques based on what is needed by each client. My primary clinical approaches are Humanistic/Person Centered, Cognitive, Narrative, and Existential. I have received additional training in incorporating spirituality/religion in counseling, grief and loss counseling, utilizing meditation in counseling, and strength-based counseling. I also conduct research in the areas of cultural differences, issues of oppression and marginalization, empathy, and value conflicts (particularly related to religion, sexual/gender identity, and politics).
My approach to counseling is eclectic – I like to select theories and techniques based on what is needed by each client. My primary clinical approaches are Humanistic/Person Centered, Cognitive, Narrative, and Existential. I have received additional training in incorporating spirituality/religion in counseling, grief and loss counseling, utilizing meditation in counseling, and strength-based counseling. I also conduct research in the areas of cultural differences, issues of oppression and marginalization, empathy, and value conflicts (particularly related to religion, sexual/gender identity, and politics).
(540) 530-3825 View (540) 530-3825
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Hannah Einstein
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Christiansburg, VA 24073
I enjoy working with young adults and adults to address concerns with anxiety, depression, spirituality, self-esteem/body image, relational difficulties, transitions, and more. My desire in counseling is to provide a place where people feel safe, seen, and validated. I love asking questions that help the individual dig deeper to learn about themselves while challenging mindsets that may be hindering growth. Ultimately, I hope to empower my clients to use the skills and knowledge gained in counseling to reach their goals.
I enjoy working with young adults and adults to address concerns with anxiety, depression, spirituality, self-esteem/body image, relational difficulties, transitions, and more. My desire in counseling is to provide a place where people feel safe, seen, and validated. I love asking questions that help the individual dig deeper to learn about themselves while challenging mindsets that may be hindering growth. Ultimately, I hope to empower my clients to use the skills and knowledge gained in counseling to reach their goals.
(540) 253-1733 View (540) 253-1733
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Dugan Psychotherapy, PLLC
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Lexington, VA 24450
I aim at supporting individuals and couples who want to learn about themselves, build healthier relationships, be more emotionally present, and cope more successfully. I believe that through self- exploration and learning about our relationships, we promote growth, peace, and healing in our lives, thus building more fulfilling connections with others. I aim to help you find ways to improve your life and your relationships. If you are dealing with issues related to family conflict, relationships, GLBTQ issues, spirituality, or anxiety; I believe I would be a good fit for you.
I aim at supporting individuals and couples who want to learn about themselves, build healthier relationships, be more emotionally present, and cope more successfully. I believe that through self- exploration and learning about our relationships, we promote growth, peace, and healing in our lives, thus building more fulfilling connections with others. I aim to help you find ways to improve your life and your relationships. If you are dealing with issues related to family conflict, relationships, GLBTQ issues, spirituality, or anxiety; I believe I would be a good fit for you.
(512) 812-9889 View (512) 812-9889
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Kaylah Carter
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Lithia, VA 24066  (Online Only)
I provide counseling in the following areas: infertility, relationship issues, spirituality, self esteem, marital issues, premarital, infidelity, women's issues, grief, adjustment disorder, anger management skills, trauma, behavioral issues, family conflict, blended family, divorce, adoption, foster care, codependency, anxiety, & depression.
I have experience working with children, adolescents, and adults who need support with family conflict, relationship issues, adjustment disorder, ADHD, anxiety disorders, depression, grief, learning coping skills, general life struggles & parenting. My goal is to work alongside you and support you, while meeting you exactly where you are in this stage of your life.
I provide counseling in the following areas: infertility, relationship issues, spirituality, self esteem, marital issues, premarital, infidelity, women's issues, grief, adjustment disorder, anger management skills, trauma, behavioral issues, family conflict, blended family, divorce, adoption, foster care, codependency, anxiety, & depression.
I have experience working with children, adolescents, and adults who need support with family conflict, relationship issues, adjustment disorder, ADHD, anxiety disorders, depression, grief, learning coping skills, general life struggles & parenting. My goal is to work alongside you and support you, while meeting you exactly where you are in this stage of your life.
(540) 787-2989 View (540) 787-2989
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Kiyana Horton
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW
Verified Verified
South Hill, VA 23970  (Online Only)
For over 13 years I have provided individual and group psychotherapy to graduate and undergraduate students at the University of Michigan as well as in private practice with adults. I have extensive experience working with clients on a range of issues including depression, anxiety, trauma related issues, and substance use. As an ordained Interfaith Minister, my interests also include spirituality and religious concerns, family of origin issues, sexual orientation concerns, relationship difficulties, and cross-cultural/multicultural issues. I am committed to working with marginalized and underrepresented populations.
For over 13 years I have provided individual and group psychotherapy to graduate and undergraduate students at the University of Michigan as well as in private practice with adults. I have extensive experience working with clients on a range of issues including depression, anxiety, trauma related issues, and substance use. As an ordained Interfaith Minister, my interests also include spirituality and religious concerns, family of origin issues, sexual orientation concerns, relationship difficulties, and cross-cultural/multicultural issues. I am committed to working with marginalized and underrepresented populations.
(734) 547-6971 View (734) 547-6971
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Belinda Boscardin
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
Lynchburg, VA 24503  (Online Only)
I have experience as a health psychologist working with chronic pain and illness and have many years of training in hypnotherapy and meditation techniques and am very interested in the intersection between healing and spirituality.
As a psychologist, with almost 30 years of experience, I approach the therapy relationship with a blend of modern science, ancient wisdom (Secular, Yogic and Buddhist philosophies), common sense, humor and integrity. Increasing awareness through mindful intention and observation of the mind-body, describes my approach to psychotherapy. The therapeutic relationship is collaborative and aimed at identifying your obstacles to healing. The co-creation of a clear pathway between the heart, mind and emotions is the therapeutic work.Your "best self" will be challenged, nurtured and supported in the process.
I have experience as a health psychologist working with chronic pain and illness and have many years of training in hypnotherapy and meditation techniques and am very interested in the intersection between healing and spirituality.
As a psychologist, with almost 30 years of experience, I approach the therapy relationship with a blend of modern science, ancient wisdom (Secular, Yogic and Buddhist philosophies), common sense, humor and integrity. Increasing awareness through mindful intention and observation of the mind-body, describes my approach to psychotherapy. The therapeutic relationship is collaborative and aimed at identifying your obstacles to healing. The co-creation of a clear pathway between the heart, mind and emotions is the therapeutic work.Your "best self" will be challenged, nurtured and supported in the process.
(828) 358-2414 View (828) 358-2414
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Alan Willard
Marriage & Family Therapist, PhD, DMin
Verified Verified
Blacksburg, VA 24060
I have been doing this for over 40 years in the fields of mental health and spirituality.
When life hurts, I can help. Are you struggling with difficulties that have you feeling depressed, angry, worried, or guilty? Are your relationships at home or work in trouble or conflict? I help individuals and couples who are facing a variety of issues such as depression, anxiety, anger, infidelity, pornography, coping w/chronic illness, sexual problems, PTSD, OCD and much more. I started out my professional career as a church pastor, and in my 40's transitioned into becoming a counselor/therapist. I guide people to get over problems and to be their deeper, higher, and more loving, compassionate self.
I have been doing this for over 40 years in the fields of mental health and spirituality.
When life hurts, I can help. Are you struggling with difficulties that have you feeling depressed, angry, worried, or guilty? Are your relationships at home or work in trouble or conflict? I help individuals and couples who are facing a variety of issues such as depression, anxiety, anger, infidelity, pornography, coping w/chronic illness, sexual problems, PTSD, OCD and much more. I started out my professional career as a church pastor, and in my 40's transitioned into becoming a counselor/therapist. I guide people to get over problems and to be their deeper, higher, and more loving, compassionate self.
(540) 361-6887 View (540) 361-6887
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Laura Dowell
Pre-Licensed Professional, MSW
Verified Verified
Crozet, VA 22932
Are you seeking a safe and supportive space to explore your feelings and develop effective coping strategies? I work with clients of all ages who are experiencing anxiety, depression, grief/loss and trauma. I also offer parent support, helping families navigate the unique challenges of parenthood, including concerns related to the post-partum phase, neurodivergence and adolescence.
Are you seeking a safe and supportive space to explore your feelings and develop effective coping strategies? I work with clients of all ages who are experiencing anxiety, depression, grief/loss and trauma. I also offer parent support, helping families navigate the unique challenges of parenthood, including concerns related to the post-partum phase, neurodivergence and adolescence.
(540) 534-4109 View (540) 534-4109
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Alisha Parks
Resident in Counseling, MA, CSAC-S
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Forest, VA 24551
I hold a B.S. in Journalism and Mass Communications with a concentration in Public Relations from North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University and an M.A in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Liberty University. I am a Resident in Counseling with plans to obtain licensure as a Professional Counselor. I am passionate about equipping children, adolescents, and adults with the proper tools they need in order to live whole and fulfilled lives. I desire to provide a safe, non-judgmental, and warm environment for others to process their emotions, thoughts, and experiences.
I hold a B.S. in Journalism and Mass Communications with a concentration in Public Relations from North Carolina Agricultural and Technical State University and an M.A in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Liberty University. I am a Resident in Counseling with plans to obtain licensure as a Professional Counselor. I am passionate about equipping children, adolescents, and adults with the proper tools they need in order to live whole and fulfilled lives. I desire to provide a safe, non-judgmental, and warm environment for others to process their emotions, thoughts, and experiences.
(434) 478-1344 View (434) 478-1344
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Gregory Scott Mears
Licensed Professional Counselor, PhD, LPC
Verified Verified
Forest, VA 24551  (Online Only)
It is not uncommon for people to struggle as they go about their everyday lives. Often these struggles are easily overcome, such as running late for an appointment or getting a flat tire, but at other times these struggles are more serious, affecting individuals at a deeper level. For example, depression can make it difficult to get out of bed in the morning or anxiety can paralyze decision making, while both can lead to isolation from friends, family, and other support systems that are the best resources in such moments. Likewise trauma can lead to self-doubt and feelings of worthlessness. Most people want something better.
It is not uncommon for people to struggle as they go about their everyday lives. Often these struggles are easily overcome, such as running late for an appointment or getting a flat tire, but at other times these struggles are more serious, affecting individuals at a deeper level. For example, depression can make it difficult to get out of bed in the morning or anxiety can paralyze decision making, while both can lead to isolation from friends, family, and other support systems that are the best resources in such moments. Likewise trauma can lead to self-doubt and feelings of worthlessness. Most people want something better.
(434) 595-4154 View (434) 595-4154
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Gary Wardlaw
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT-S, LPC-S
Verified Verified
Lynchburg, VA 24503  (Online Only)
Have you ever thought – what distinguishes healthy relationships that are able to thrive from unhealthy ones that tend to be full of stress? Is it self-will? Determination? As a couples and family therapist, I believe the one distinguishing factor is "attachment". Attachment is the ability to connect with others. Depending on our ability (or inability) to attach interpersonally, determines the overall satisfaction we experience within our intimate relationships. Also, having been a victim of racism, I opened this practice as a place that people of color can heal from the impact of both blatant and systemic oppression.
Have you ever thought – what distinguishes healthy relationships that are able to thrive from unhealthy ones that tend to be full of stress? Is it self-will? Determination? As a couples and family therapist, I believe the one distinguishing factor is "attachment". Attachment is the ability to connect with others. Depending on our ability (or inability) to attach interpersonally, determines the overall satisfaction we experience within our intimate relationships. Also, having been a victim of racism, I opened this practice as a place that people of color can heal from the impact of both blatant and systemic oppression.
(434) 290-4304 View (434) 290-4304
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Dwight Dugan
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Lexington, VA 24450
Do you want to feel more at home in your own skin? Do you wonder why you haven't already "figured things out"? Do behaviors and beliefs that once helped you survive now keep you from authentically relating with others? Does your gut tell you there is another way of being, but you just can't seem to get there? Whatever your aspiration or longing, being a person isn't easy and transformation can feel daunting. Having struggled with these questions myself, it would be my honor to accompany you on your path. My approach is informed by a therapy model called AEDP, which seeks to undo aloneness and draw upon your innate healing capacity.
Do you want to feel more at home in your own skin? Do you wonder why you haven't already "figured things out"? Do behaviors and beliefs that once helped you survive now keep you from authentically relating with others? Does your gut tell you there is another way of being, but you just can't seem to get there? Whatever your aspiration or longing, being a person isn't easy and transformation can feel daunting. Having struggled with these questions myself, it would be my honor to accompany you on your path. My approach is informed by a therapy model called AEDP, which seeks to undo aloneness and draw upon your innate healing capacity.
(512) 270-6224 View (512) 270-6224

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Spirituality Therapists

What should I expect from therapy that incorporates a focus on spirituality?

Spirituality can mean different things to different individuals, depending on their experiences, beliefs, and life histories. Some individuals focus on strengthening their belief system, while others experience spirituality in secular ways, such as through meditation, yoga, or by spending time in nature. Clients can expect a therapist to help guide and grow their spirituality through any of these techniques, encouraging the individual to cope with the challenges they face and develop strategies to build resilience and purpose to improve their outlook in life.

What are the most common treatments that include spirituality?

There are several treatments that incorporate spirituality. Mindfulness-based cognitive therapy (MBCT) helps a person examine and reframe their negative thoughts and behaviors. Acceptance and commitment therapy (ACT) focuses on emotional acceptance and psychological flexibility. Existential therapy is most often used to address anxiety, depression, grief, loneliness, apathy, despair, questions of identity, and feelings of purposelessness and existential dread. Transpersonal therapy focuses on a client’s spirituality and meaning in life and may incorporate techniques including meditation, visualization, hypnotherapy, dream analysis, and or breathwork.

Can therapy incorporating spirituality help atheistic or agnostic individuals?

Yes. For non-believers, spirituality can offer benefits including a greater sense of connection to others and to the natural world. An interest in spirituality may also spur individuals to pursue mindfulness practices, or to contemplate their purpose in life and how to achieve it.

How effective is spirituality as a therapeutic remedy?

​​Research suggests spirituality is generally beneficial for individuals. It is correlated with better health habits, such as less substance use, and an improved capacity to cope with stress and other mental health challenges. Increased spirituality can lead individuals to become more empathic and less materialistic, as well.