Psychosis Therapists in Coppell, TX

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Floyd Russell Crites Jr.
Counselor, LPC, LMFT, LSSP, NBCCH, CPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Coppell, TX 75019
If you're looking for extra support and guidance through a challenging situation, need testing to help determine how to help you or your child handle life, school or work more effectively, or if you want to improve your life situation or relationship I look forward to working with you. I am a solution focused therapist who enjoys working with clients as they journey through hard times. This is especially true in regards to marriage or relationship issues. Helping save or better a relationship is one of the greatest benefits I get from doing therapy
If you're looking for extra support and guidance through a challenging situation, need testing to help determine how to help you or your child handle life, school or work more effectively, or if you want to improve your life situation or relationship I look forward to working with you. I am a solution focused therapist who enjoys working with clients as they journey through hard times. This is especially true in regards to marriage or relationship issues. Helping save or better a relationship is one of the greatest benefits I get from doing therapy
(972) 295-9866 View (972) 295-9866
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Christina Elizabeth Knight
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019
A graduate cum laude with a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology, I have experience working 7 years working in psychiatric hospitals and three years in outpatient treatment. This has given me excellent experience in working with people of all ages, backgrounds, severity of issues, and problems. I use a collaborative multimodal process and am specialized in working with depression, anxiety, mood disorders, ADHD, and trauma. My CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) skills have been certified by the Beck Institute.
A graduate cum laude with a Master’s Degree in Counseling Psychology, I have experience working 7 years working in psychiatric hospitals and three years in outpatient treatment. This has given me excellent experience in working with people of all ages, backgrounds, severity of issues, and problems. I use a collaborative multimodal process and am specialized in working with depression, anxiety, mood disorders, ADHD, and trauma. My CBT (cognitive behavioral therapy) skills have been certified by the Beck Institute.
(469) 653-3934 View (469) 653-3934
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Charles Gaby
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019
After many years of supporting positive change, I have found that courage and hope need insight and clarity to flourish. Whether you suffer from anxiety, depression, addiction or relational challenges it helps to have a guide who will not only listen to your experience, but who can also recognize dynamics that are at play in our thoughts and feelings. I wrote a book called Choosing to Evolve - A User's Guide to Waking Up. In it, I share some of the many discoveries that clients have made in uncovering hidden scripts that had kept them stuck in repetitive cycles and frustrating limitations. Create an ecstatic life! Start today!
After many years of supporting positive change, I have found that courage and hope need insight and clarity to flourish. Whether you suffer from anxiety, depression, addiction or relational challenges it helps to have a guide who will not only listen to your experience, but who can also recognize dynamics that are at play in our thoughts and feelings. I wrote a book called Choosing to Evolve - A User's Guide to Waking Up. In it, I share some of the many discoveries that clients have made in uncovering hidden scripts that had kept them stuck in repetitive cycles and frustrating limitations. Create an ecstatic life! Start today!
(817) 646-8158 View (817) 646-8158
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Dr. Lisa McElroy
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019  (Online Only)
I am aware that if you are thinking of contacting me, you are struggling. My goal is to make this process as easy and comforting as possible. I believe in solution-focused treatment, and have dedicated my professional life to easing pain and helping people build a skill set for a better life. I specialize in cognitive behavioral, insight oriented and supportive treatment of depression, anxiety, trauma, panic disorder, bipolar disorders I and II, schizoaffective disorder, and grief. I have advanced training in the evaluation and management of memory disorders, complex dementia and late life depression.
I am aware that if you are thinking of contacting me, you are struggling. My goal is to make this process as easy and comforting as possible. I believe in solution-focused treatment, and have dedicated my professional life to easing pain and helping people build a skill set for a better life. I specialize in cognitive behavioral, insight oriented and supportive treatment of depression, anxiety, trauma, panic disorder, bipolar disorders I and II, schizoaffective disorder, and grief. I have advanced training in the evaluation and management of memory disorders, complex dementia and late life depression.
(231) 624-5885 View (231) 624-5885
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Michael R. Denson
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, LMFT, CEAP
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Coppell, TX 75019
My goal is to build self-esteem and to create a sense of empowerment in each person with whom I work. My work is with all ages through various modalities, including play therapy, games, crafts, and traditional counseling techniques. Children and adolescents are guided to develop effective techniques for navigating the issues and concerns that are encountered during the developmental and formative years. Similarly, I work with adults in showing how to work through the various obstacles and difficulties - both internal and external - that are encountered throughout life.
My goal is to build self-esteem and to create a sense of empowerment in each person with whom I work. My work is with all ages through various modalities, including play therapy, games, crafts, and traditional counseling techniques. Children and adolescents are guided to develop effective techniques for navigating the issues and concerns that are encountered during the developmental and formative years. Similarly, I work with adults in showing how to work through the various obstacles and difficulties - both internal and external - that are encountered throughout life.
(972) 299-8673 View (972) 299-8673
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James Randy Ingram
Licensed Professional Counselor, PhD, LMFT, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Coppell, TX 75019
I do a lot of work with individuals and couples struggling in relationship issues. Anxiety, depression, conflict management and communication issues tend to be the results of clients applying ineffective solutions to the problems they're experiencing. I love to see the individual and/or couple who seriously desire healthy change in their lives and are willing to risk implementing different approaches to their problems. I work well in family related issues. I have several adolescent guys with issues related to ADD, ADHD, and Aspergers. I offer them an environment that's safe, accepting, understanding and validating.
I do a lot of work with individuals and couples struggling in relationship issues. Anxiety, depression, conflict management and communication issues tend to be the results of clients applying ineffective solutions to the problems they're experiencing. I love to see the individual and/or couple who seriously desire healthy change in their lives and are willing to risk implementing different approaches to their problems. I work well in family related issues. I have several adolescent guys with issues related to ADD, ADHD, and Aspergers. I offer them an environment that's safe, accepting, understanding and validating.
(469) 502-7212 View (469) 502-7212
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Mika Smith-Low
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-S, LCDC
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019
WE OFFER PHONE AND VIDEO SESSIONS. Able to offer ADHD and personality testing. I am passionate about providing evidence-based therapy services, and I specialize in treating adults with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and related disorders, PTSD and trauma, and LGBTQ+ related issues including transition. As your therapist my goal is to provide you with the education, skills, tools, and understanding you need to achieve sustainable symptom reduction and become better adjusted and able to cope with life changes and stressors more independently.
WE OFFER PHONE AND VIDEO SESSIONS. Able to offer ADHD and personality testing. I am passionate about providing evidence-based therapy services, and I specialize in treating adults with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder and related disorders, PTSD and trauma, and LGBTQ+ related issues including transition. As your therapist my goal is to provide you with the education, skills, tools, and understanding you need to achieve sustainable symptom reduction and become better adjusted and able to cope with life changes and stressors more independently.
(972) 916-9510 View (972) 916-9510
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Adam C. Jones
Marriage & Family Therapist Associate, PhD, LMFT-A
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019
Two Openings Left! I specialize in working with sexual problems, family conflict, adjusting to illness and disability, addiction, and many other relationship challenges. I have a small private practice and only see clients on Fridays because I also teach full-time at a local university. I also offer a free over-the-phone consultation. You can call, email, or send a text message and we can discuss if I am a good fit for your therapy needs.
Two Openings Left! I specialize in working with sexual problems, family conflict, adjusting to illness and disability, addiction, and many other relationship challenges. I have a small private practice and only see clients on Fridays because I also teach full-time at a local university. I also offer a free over-the-phone consultation. You can call, email, or send a text message and we can discuss if I am a good fit for your therapy needs.
(940) 394-0630 View (940) 394-0630
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Ryan McNamara
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019
I work with adults aged 18+ for individual therapy. I primarily use CBT, DBT, ACT, EMDR, motivational interviewing, and mindfulness techniques as my therapeutic modalities. I blend a direct yet flexible approach, ensuring clear communication and adaptability to each client's needs. It is trauma-informed, collaborative, and empathic in nature. My style is fairly structured, emphasizing the importance of homework to reinforce therapeutic gains and insights. At its core, my practice is client-centered, prioritizing the unique journey and goals of each individual I work with.
I work with adults aged 18+ for individual therapy. I primarily use CBT, DBT, ACT, EMDR, motivational interviewing, and mindfulness techniques as my therapeutic modalities. I blend a direct yet flexible approach, ensuring clear communication and adaptability to each client's needs. It is trauma-informed, collaborative, and empathic in nature. My style is fairly structured, emphasizing the importance of homework to reinforce therapeutic gains and insights. At its core, my practice is client-centered, prioritizing the unique journey and goals of each individual I work with.
(972) 640-7533 View (972) 640-7533
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Mikayla Jacob
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-S, LISW
Verified Verified
Coppell, TX 75019
Do you feel overwhelmed by anxiety, stress, or burnout? Find yourself struggling to manage daily life and maintain relationships? I strive to provide a safe, non-judgmental space to explore emotions and gain practical strategies for change. Some goals may include reducing anxiety, improving relationships, building resilience, and cultivating self-compassion. Come with a desire to overcome challenges and achieve lasting well-being. I will be a guide in creating a balanced, fulfilling life, empowering you to thrive.
Do you feel overwhelmed by anxiety, stress, or burnout? Find yourself struggling to manage daily life and maintain relationships? I strive to provide a safe, non-judgmental space to explore emotions and gain practical strategies for change. Some goals may include reducing anxiety, improving relationships, building resilience, and cultivating self-compassion. Come with a desire to overcome challenges and achieve lasting well-being. I will be a guide in creating a balanced, fulfilling life, empowering you to thrive.
(214) 833-7688 View (214) 833-7688
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Cyra Crouch
Licensed Professional Counselor, MEd, LPC, PMH-C
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Coppell, TX 75019
Becoming a mother is a huge, complicated life transition. You’re exhausted, but you can’t sleep. You love your baby, but it’s hard to like someone who screams at you all day. You need help, but you don’t know who to ask or what to ask for. Finding support and taking care of yourself is a great first step – healthy parents grow healthy families. Therapy is a safe place to sort through your scary thoughts and tap into your inner strengths and resources.
Becoming a mother is a huge, complicated life transition. You’re exhausted, but you can’t sleep. You love your baby, but it’s hard to like someone who screams at you all day. You need help, but you don’t know who to ask or what to ask for. Finding support and taking care of yourself is a great first step – healthy parents grow healthy families. Therapy is a safe place to sort through your scary thoughts and tap into your inner strengths and resources.
(281) 595-8193 View (281) 595-8193

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Francine Sedacy
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Flower Mound, TX 75028  (Online Only)
Through the use of these skillsI am able to treat adjustment disorder, borderline personality, depression, anxiety, Bipolar disorder, Major Depressive disorder, personality disorders, schizophrenia, general anxiety disorder, and substance use disorders.
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) in Texas. I earned my Master’s degree in Counseling at Southwestern Adventist University while working at the local mental health authority Pecan Valley Centers in Cleburne, TX. I worked as a case manager, LPC-Intern, and an on-call crisis responder. I was trained using Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) among many other trainings. I worked at The Johnson County Children's Advocacy Center as a counselor where I was fully trained in Trauma Focused – Cognitive Behavior Therapy (TFCBT) and Play Therapy. At the advocacy center I worked primarily with youths who suffer from trauma.
Through the use of these skillsI am able to treat adjustment disorder, borderline personality, depression, anxiety, Bipolar disorder, Major Depressive disorder, personality disorders, schizophrenia, general anxiety disorder, and substance use disorders.
I am a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) in Texas. I earned my Master’s degree in Counseling at Southwestern Adventist University while working at the local mental health authority Pecan Valley Centers in Cleburne, TX. I worked as a case manager, LPC-Intern, and an on-call crisis responder. I was trained using Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) among many other trainings. I worked at The Johnson County Children's Advocacy Center as a counselor where I was fully trained in Trauma Focused – Cognitive Behavior Therapy (TFCBT) and Play Therapy. At the advocacy center I worked primarily with youths who suffer from trauma.
(817) 662-4590 View (817) 662-4590
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Dallas Therapeutic Services
Psychologist, PsyD, LPC, LCDC
Verified Verified
Irving, TX 75063
We have 16 therapists specializing in the following: LGBTQ+, PTSD (including military/first responders), pain, OCD, child/adolescent (including play therapy), EMDR, CBT, DBT, Spanish speaking, cultural issues, eating disorders, substance use, psychosis, grief, couples, family, attachment issues and behavioral.
Dallas Therapeutic Services is a group practice uniquely managed to fit the needs of most clients! When the group formed, care was taken to choose clinicians with a variety of backgrounds and specialities. We want to provide an environment, where we can match clients with their best fit therapist. Additionally, we are able to psychological testing for ADHD, Autism, IQ (processing speed, working memory, comprehension and perceptual reasoning as well IQ score) and personality (diagnosis) - all of which can help with differentiating diagnoses and planning treatment accordingly.
We have 16 therapists specializing in the following: LGBTQ+, PTSD (including military/first responders), pain, OCD, child/adolescent (including play therapy), EMDR, CBT, DBT, Spanish speaking, cultural issues, eating disorders, substance use, psychosis, grief, couples, family, attachment issues and behavioral.
Dallas Therapeutic Services is a group practice uniquely managed to fit the needs of most clients! When the group formed, care was taken to choose clinicians with a variety of backgrounds and specialities. We want to provide an environment, where we can match clients with their best fit therapist. Additionally, we are able to psychological testing for ADHD, Autism, IQ (processing speed, working memory, comprehension and perceptual reasoning as well IQ score) and personality (diagnosis) - all of which can help with differentiating diagnoses and planning treatment accordingly.
(972) 472-4934 View (972) 472-4934
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Rob Novick, LCSW-S
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-S, MSSW
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Dallas, TX 75287
Additionally, I help those diagnosed with a mental illness, like Schizophrenia, Schizoaffective Disorder, and Bipolar.
Starting therapy for the first time or finding a new therapist can be stressful and anxiety-provoking. My goal is to help you feel comfortable from our first conversation. I believe everyone has the capability and strength to face whatever life has to offer, even when it seems overwhelming. By providing a safe, warm, caring environment, my clients can freely express themselves without judgment. I actively participate in my client's treatment by offering reflections, suggestions, ideas, and homework. My main therapeutic approach is cognitive behavioral, along with mindfulness, and solution-focused therapy.
Additionally, I help those diagnosed with a mental illness, like Schizophrenia, Schizoaffective Disorder, and Bipolar.
Starting therapy for the first time or finding a new therapist can be stressful and anxiety-provoking. My goal is to help you feel comfortable from our first conversation. I believe everyone has the capability and strength to face whatever life has to offer, even when it seems overwhelming. By providing a safe, warm, caring environment, my clients can freely express themselves without judgment. I actively participate in my client's treatment by offering reflections, suggestions, ideas, and homework. My main therapeutic approach is cognitive behavioral, along with mindfulness, and solution-focused therapy.
(214) 740-3929 View (214) 740-3929
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Amanda Kendig
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW-S
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Irving, TX 75039  (Online Only)
When life gets overwhelming, who do you talk to? Really, truly talk to? Is there a space where you can speak freely about your anxieties, life stressors, and your innermost thoughts and feelings? A place where you can celebrate big moments while also processing letdowns? A place where you can share anything without fear of judgment? If the answer to any of these questions is “no,” then I would love to talk with you about counseling. There is something enormously freeing about having a person and a place to share the things that tie up your mind and tangle your heart.
When life gets overwhelming, who do you talk to? Really, truly talk to? Is there a space where you can speak freely about your anxieties, life stressors, and your innermost thoughts and feelings? A place where you can celebrate big moments while also processing letdowns? A place where you can share anything without fear of judgment? If the answer to any of these questions is “no,” then I would love to talk with you about counseling. There is something enormously freeing about having a person and a place to share the things that tie up your mind and tangle your heart.
(469) 300-3858 View (469) 300-3858
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Jazz Washington
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Addison, TX 75001
Thank you for considering joining me here at Centered, PLLC. I look to inspire hope in you, help you recognize and exceed your perceived potential, and walk along side you as you create the life you desire. I’m grateful and excited to join you on your journey of healing, transformation, and personal development. I truly believe that treatment should fit the needs of the person or people being served. For that reason, I take a client-centered approach in our collaborative process to develop a treatment plan that is individualized, safe, and effective for you.
Thank you for considering joining me here at Centered, PLLC. I look to inspire hope in you, help you recognize and exceed your perceived potential, and walk along side you as you create the life you desire. I’m grateful and excited to join you on your journey of healing, transformation, and personal development. I truly believe that treatment should fit the needs of the person or people being served. For that reason, I take a client-centered approach in our collaborative process to develop a treatment plan that is individualized, safe, and effective for you.
(817) 769-3909 View (817) 769-3909
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Cheryl Scott
Licensed Professional Counselor, MAEd, LPC
Verified Verified
Southlake, TX 76092
Cheryl Scott, a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) at LifeStance Health in Texas, excels at creating a secure, trusting environment for clients. With her exceptional listening skills and honest communication, Cheryl helps clients navigate their challenges and build a therapeutic relationship that fosters growth and healing. Her wisdom and discernment are assets in the therapeutic process, making her an effective and compassionate counselor for individuals and families in the Texas region.
Cheryl Scott, a Licensed Professional Counselor (LPC) at LifeStance Health in Texas, excels at creating a secure, trusting environment for clients. With her exceptional listening skills and honest communication, Cheryl helps clients navigate their challenges and build a therapeutic relationship that fosters growth and healing. Her wisdom and discernment are assets in the therapeutic process, making her an effective and compassionate counselor for individuals and families in the Texas region.
(817) 646-6952 View (817) 646-6952
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Victoria Williams
Licensed Professional Counselor, LPC
Verified Verified
Farmers Branch, TX 75234
Welcome! My name is Victoria Williams and I am a Licensed Professional Counselor. I work with individuals and family in areas such as anxiety, anger management, behavioral issues, coping skills, and depression, amongst others. I work well with adolescents in that I listen to them and help them gain insight to understanding how their behaviors play a major role in their future. I use the cognitive behavioral therapy approach as I believe thoughts are directly tied to behaviors. Once we are able to identify irrational thoughts, we can start to learn more positive functional behaviors to respond to uncomfortable situations.
Welcome! My name is Victoria Williams and I am a Licensed Professional Counselor. I work with individuals and family in areas such as anxiety, anger management, behavioral issues, coping skills, and depression, amongst others. I work well with adolescents in that I listen to them and help them gain insight to understanding how their behaviors play a major role in their future. I use the cognitive behavioral therapy approach as I believe thoughts are directly tied to behaviors. Once we are able to identify irrational thoughts, we can start to learn more positive functional behaviors to respond to uncomfortable situations.
(469) 457-4334 View (469) 457-4334
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Robert Kinney
Psychologist, PhD, LP
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Colleyville, TX 76034
I help people with depression and anxiety feel better and make life changes through evidence based treatments, such as psychodynamics, CBT and interpersonal psychotherapy. Each individual's course of depression and anxiety is unique, so I approach each treatment plan with the time and care that it needs. I focus on helping clients notice strengths, feel less alone, and improve relationships.
I help people with depression and anxiety feel better and make life changes through evidence based treatments, such as psychodynamics, CBT and interpersonal psychotherapy. Each individual's course of depression and anxiety is unique, so I approach each treatment plan with the time and care that it needs. I focus on helping clients notice strengths, feel less alone, and improve relationships.
(469) 900-7310 x1 View (469) 900-7310 x1
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Rayne L. Ventimiglia
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Colleyville, TX 76034
On the surface it looks like anger or constant irritation, but beneath the turbulent current of destructive behaviors are emotions like sadness and grief, pain, sorrow and fear. Anger is much more preferable if a lot of your life you have felt powerless or helpless. As you might be figuring out, the power of intense, uncontrollable anger only leads to self-destruction and can deeply hurts others. Self-destruction can look a lot like being stuck, resistance to change even when miserable, using substances, or being undisciplined. It can feel lonely.
On the surface it looks like anger or constant irritation, but beneath the turbulent current of destructive behaviors are emotions like sadness and grief, pain, sorrow and fear. Anger is much more preferable if a lot of your life you have felt powerless or helpless. As you might be figuring out, the power of intense, uncontrollable anger only leads to self-destruction and can deeply hurts others. Self-destruction can look a lot like being stuck, resistance to change even when miserable, using substances, or being undisciplined. It can feel lonely.
(817) 402-2419 View (817) 402-2419
Psychosis Therapists

What’s the most effective treatment for psychosis?

The most effective treatment for psychosis is coordinated specialty care. In this model, a team of professionals works with a patient to address all aspects of the underlying disorder. This approach incorporates individual or group therapy, employment and education support, family support and education, medication management (which often involves low doses of antipsychotics), and case management to facilitate problem-solving as needed.

When should people seek treatment for psychosis?

People should seek immediate treatment at the earliest indication of psychosis. Symptoms include delusions, hallucinations, disorganized or blocked speech, and agitated body movements. Early signs that a person may be developing a disorder that will lead to psychosis include suspiciousness of others, memory problems and distractibility, an inability to think clearly, rapid or nonsensical speech, withdrawal from friends or family, aggression toward others, and sensitivity to bright lights or noises.

What if psychosis is left untreated?

Without treatment, psychosis can have significant repercussions, including injuries, job loss, homelessness, financial or legal trouble, ruptured relationships, and suffering for the person and their family. While early treatment for psychosis often yields the best results, there is no point past which it becomes useless to seek treatment. At any point, treatment can make a difference.

How do I get someone else to seek treatment for psychosis?

It’s extremely difficult to watch a loved one suffer from hallucinations, delusions, and other elements of psychosis—sometimes exacerbated by their fears of treatment. Have a conversation with them in a quiet space and maintain a calm, supportive tone. Share your concerns about behaviors you’ve observed, suggest treatment, and explain the potential benefits. Listen carefully to their responses. The person may not be ready after one conversation, but with time, they may come around.