Psychoanalytic Therapists in Davidson, NC

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Jeannine Bodner
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036
I respect the courage that it takes to seek help when life's challenges become overwhelming. It is often a very painful place that can be difficult to share with another person. I am very sensitive to the fact that the first step can be the most difficult. I use a collaborative, compassionate approach with my clients. I rely on my knowledge and experience coupled with theoretical approaches to customize a plan for the individual situation. The goal is to work toward holistic balance.
I respect the courage that it takes to seek help when life's challenges become overwhelming. It is often a very painful place that can be difficult to share with another person. I am very sensitive to the fact that the first step can be the most difficult. I use a collaborative, compassionate approach with my clients. I rely on my knowledge and experience coupled with theoretical approaches to customize a plan for the individual situation. The goal is to work toward holistic balance.
(704) 851-8218 View (704) 851-8218
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Erin Haverkamp
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036
You feel anxious, depressed and haunted by past experiences, keeping you from enjoying work & personal success. You’re great at your job; you can set goals and achieve them every time. But despite how good life might look from the outside, you struggle with feelings of shame or anxiety and can’t quite connect in meaningful relationships. You might be wondering if some of the experiences you had as a child, or earlier in life, are influencing the way you’re feeling today. It’s hard figuring that out on your own, and you’re ready to make those connections and finally feel better.
You feel anxious, depressed and haunted by past experiences, keeping you from enjoying work & personal success. You’re great at your job; you can set goals and achieve them every time. But despite how good life might look from the outside, you struggle with feelings of shame or anxiety and can’t quite connect in meaningful relationships. You might be wondering if some of the experiences you had as a child, or earlier in life, are influencing the way you’re feeling today. It’s hard figuring that out on your own, and you’re ready to make those connections and finally feel better.
(980) 372-7195 View (980) 372-7195
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Travis M Bradey
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, NCC, LCMHC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28035
Anxiety, Relationships, Nero Divergence or just looking for answes?…Since 2012, my passion has been therapy/counseling, second only to being a father to my amazing kids. I have amassed extensive experiences and training along that way. As a result, I can match each client with tools and philosophy that get them closer to where they are trying to go. My approach to all things centers on finding solutions in life, and my sessions are no different. From day one, I seek solutions while being present with those who allow me to be a part of their journey.
Anxiety, Relationships, Nero Divergence or just looking for answes?…Since 2012, my passion has been therapy/counseling, second only to being a father to my amazing kids. I have amassed extensive experiences and training along that way. As a result, I can match each client with tools and philosophy that get them closer to where they are trying to go. My approach to all things centers on finding solutions in life, and my sessions are no different. From day one, I seek solutions while being present with those who allow me to be a part of their journey.
(980) 319-1603 View (980) 319-1603
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Réa M. Wright
Licensed Professional Counselor, MA, LCMHC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
Want to live a Joyful, Vibrant, & Conscious life? Understanding that you are important, relevant & that you matter, is step one. Your relationship with your SELF affects every aspect of your life & often small changes can lead to big shifts! If you want to feel differently, want satisfying relationships, & to cope with life's stressors in an empowered & positive way, then please do reach out to me. I provide a safe and nonjudgmental space in which you can explore feelings, thoughts & beliefs, both conscious & unconscious, that may be keeping you stuck. You don't have to keep struggling alone. I'm just an email away!
Want to live a Joyful, Vibrant, & Conscious life? Understanding that you are important, relevant & that you matter, is step one. Your relationship with your SELF affects every aspect of your life & often small changes can lead to big shifts! If you want to feel differently, want satisfying relationships, & to cope with life's stressors in an empowered & positive way, then please do reach out to me. I provide a safe and nonjudgmental space in which you can explore feelings, thoughts & beliefs, both conscious & unconscious, that may be keeping you stuck. You don't have to keep struggling alone. I'm just an email away!
(704) 216-4296 View (704) 216-4296
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Charidi Jamison
MS, LCMHC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
I am a licensed clinical mental health counselor who helps adults and children ages 10-17. I have a passion to help those experiencing such issues as grief, alcohol addiction,cannabis addiction, depression, relationship issues,anxiety, low self-esteem and rebellious children/teens-just to name a few. Are you contemplating having an abortion?Have you had an abortion?I can offer you a nonjudgmental listening ear to process your thoughts and feelings.Do you feel stuck or unhappy with your life? Are ready to be unstuck, happy with your life, and all that God has created you to be? Now is the time!
I am a licensed clinical mental health counselor who helps adults and children ages 10-17. I have a passion to help those experiencing such issues as grief, alcohol addiction,cannabis addiction, depression, relationship issues,anxiety, low self-esteem and rebellious children/teens-just to name a few. Are you contemplating having an abortion?Have you had an abortion?I can offer you a nonjudgmental listening ear to process your thoughts and feelings.Do you feel stuck or unhappy with your life? Are ready to be unstuck, happy with your life, and all that God has created you to be? Now is the time!
(980) 300-6268 View (980) 300-6268
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Justin Fendell Green
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, LCSW, LCASA
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036  (Online Only)
Dr. Justin F. Green is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Licensed Clinical Addictions Specialist Associate, Clinically Certified Sex Offender Treatment Specialist, and a Clinically Certified Forensic Social Worker. He received his BA, BS, and Masters in Social Work from Fayetteville State University- “Bronco Pride.” Dr. Green has a Doctorate in philosophy with a concentration in Metaphysics (spiritual counseling). Dr. Green is native to North Carolina. He is also the father of 6 children. He is Married to an Army Veteran.
Dr. Justin F. Green is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker, Licensed Clinical Addictions Specialist Associate, Clinically Certified Sex Offender Treatment Specialist, and a Clinically Certified Forensic Social Worker. He received his BA, BS, and Masters in Social Work from Fayetteville State University- “Bronco Pride.” Dr. Green has a Doctorate in philosophy with a concentration in Metaphysics (spiritual counseling). Dr. Green is native to North Carolina. He is also the father of 6 children. He is Married to an Army Veteran.
(984) 384-6905 View (984) 384-6905
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Anderson Counseling and Consulting Group, PLLC
Lic Clinical Mental Health Counselor Supervisor, LCMHC-S, LPC
Verified Verified
3 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28036
Anderson Counseling and Group, PLLC has provides professional clinical counseling to adults, teens, children and families in the Charlotte and Davidson areas of North Carolina for over 10 years. We believe our commitment to rigorous clinical practices ensures that our clients experience the highest level of effective and ethical care.
Anderson Counseling and Group, PLLC has provides professional clinical counseling to adults, teens, children and families in the Charlotte and Davidson areas of North Carolina for over 10 years. We believe our commitment to rigorous clinical practices ensures that our clients experience the highest level of effective and ethical care.
(704) 702-0903 View (704) 702-0903
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Judy Scheel, Ph.D., LCSW, CEDS
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, LCSW, CEDS
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28035
Waitlist for new clients
With years of training & personal analysis, I am solidly qualified to treat individuals/couples/families for mental health issues like anxiety & depression & interpersonal issues. I am certified as an EATING DISORDER expert (CEDS) & provide treatment for SEXUAL ISSUES with training from NYU Langone Medical. I am an Associate Member of SSTAR (Society for Sex Therapy & Research.) My approaches are fueled by many years of training in psychological theories. I am licensed in NC, NY & CA with offices in Charlotte, NC, New York, NY & offer video sessions for CA residents. I write two Blogs for psychologytoday.com on Sex & Eating Issues
With years of training & personal analysis, I am solidly qualified to treat individuals/couples/families for mental health issues like anxiety & depression & interpersonal issues. I am certified as an EATING DISORDER expert (CEDS) & provide treatment for SEXUAL ISSUES with training from NYU Langone Medical. I am an Associate Member of SSTAR (Society for Sex Therapy & Research.) My approaches are fueled by many years of training in psychological theories. I am licensed in NC, NY & CA with offices in Charlotte, NC, New York, NY & offer video sessions for CA residents. I write two Blogs for psychologytoday.com on Sex & Eating Issues
(914) 352-5131 View (914) 352-5131
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R J Wolf Counseling Services
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036
Life is full of twists and turns, often unexpected and challenging to even the most seasoned navigator. Individual, couple, and family therapy can provide relief to those seeking support by regrouping, learning coping skills and gaining helpful insight to promote empowered change. It is my honor to help individuals, couples, and families who are seeking help to either heal, learn new ways to manage their lives or adjust to new challenges. I have extensive experience in the fields of anxiety/depression/PTSD, adjustment, illness, grief, sudden loss, marriage, post-partum depression, blended family, parenting, and addiction. My practice encompasses adolescents to the young at heart.
Life is full of twists and turns, often unexpected and challenging to even the most seasoned navigator. Individual, couple, and family therapy can provide relief to those seeking support by regrouping, learning coping skills and gaining helpful insight to promote empowered change. It is my honor to help individuals, couples, and families who are seeking help to either heal, learn new ways to manage their lives or adjust to new challenges. I have extensive experience in the fields of anxiety/depression/PTSD, adjustment, illness, grief, sudden loss, marriage, post-partum depression, blended family, parenting, and addiction. My practice encompasses adolescents to the young at heart.
(704) 610-2455 View (704) 610-2455
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Nancy F Sharp
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, CHT, LFYP, IAYT
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036  (Online Only)
My mission is to help people live a life of healthy congruity, to experience a sense of forward movement and clear direction-physically, financially, professionally, emotionally, relationally. I help my clients bring forth the energy and focus to dramatically change their lives so they enjoy greater health, happiness and wholeness. I've worked with many busy people who were exhausted, miserable, tapped out, feeling out of balance, stressed and worried. As a Licensed Psychotherapist, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, Certified LifeForce Yoga Practitioner and Holistic Coach I use an integrated holistic approach to personal growth and renewal.
My mission is to help people live a life of healthy congruity, to experience a sense of forward movement and clear direction-physically, financially, professionally, emotionally, relationally. I help my clients bring forth the energy and focus to dramatically change their lives so they enjoy greater health, happiness and wholeness. I've worked with many busy people who were exhausted, miserable, tapped out, feeling out of balance, stressed and worried. As a Licensed Psychotherapist, Certified Clinical Hypnotherapist, Certified LifeForce Yoga Practitioner and Holistic Coach I use an integrated holistic approach to personal growth and renewal.
(203) 763-4702 View (203) 763-4702
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Anna M Soper
Drug & Alcohol Counselor, Ma Edu, LCMHCA, LCAS, NCC
Verified Verified
Davidson, NC 28036  (Online Only)
Trust, respect, safety and *authenticity* seems to be the most vital components to any relationship, especially the therapeutic relationship between client and therapist. My personal philosophies encourage my therapeutic approach of providing a warm and safe environment where you feel like you can be YOU! Creating an atmosphere of no judgment, is of the utmost important to me in working with you as a client. I respect honesty and ensure to provide you the same so that you grow. We may laugh, we may cry, but we will leave feeling a little lighter (insert winky face).
Trust, respect, safety and *authenticity* seems to be the most vital components to any relationship, especially the therapeutic relationship between client and therapist. My personal philosophies encourage my therapeutic approach of providing a warm and safe environment where you feel like you can be YOU! Creating an atmosphere of no judgment, is of the utmost important to me in working with you as a client. I respect honesty and ensure to provide you the same so that you grow. We may laugh, we may cry, but we will leave feeling a little lighter (insert winky face).
(704) 980-9585 View (704) 980-9585
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Carrie Schroeder
Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor, MA, LCMHC, LMHC
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Davidson, NC 28035
Finding the right therapist, taking that first step, is one of the most difficult parts of therapy. Finding a good fit when it comes to a therapeutic relationship is key to gaining symptom relief and creating lasting change in your life. My purpose is to provide a relaxed, comfortable, and trusting environment to help you gain insight into behaviors that are keeping you stuck and elicit the change you are seeking.
Finding the right therapist, taking that first step, is one of the most difficult parts of therapy. Finding a good fit when it comes to a therapeutic relationship is key to gaining symptom relief and creating lasting change in your life. My purpose is to provide a relaxed, comfortable, and trusting environment to help you gain insight into behaviors that are keeping you stuck and elicit the change you are seeking.
(704) 327-0141 View (704) 327-0141

More Therapists Nearby

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Karen Rogich
Lic Clinical Mental Health Counselor Associate, LCMHCA, MAC, MEd
Verified Verified
Mooresville, NC 28115
Karen Rogich is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor Associate practicing in the heart of Charlotte, NC. Karen’s therapeutic approach is grounded in psychodynamic/psychoanalytic therapy, which is insight-oriented. This model explores how our early life experiences relate to current life functioning and relationships to offer choices for change. In her practice, therapy is tailored to each individual. Karen utilizes an integrative model incorporating somatic work, trauma-informed therapy, EMDR, health and nutrition, to help clients make lasting changes for meaningful life. Karen enjoys working with adults and couples.
Karen Rogich is a Licensed Clinical Mental Health Counselor Associate practicing in the heart of Charlotte, NC. Karen’s therapeutic approach is grounded in psychodynamic/psychoanalytic therapy, which is insight-oriented. This model explores how our early life experiences relate to current life functioning and relationships to offer choices for change. In her practice, therapy is tailored to each individual. Karen utilizes an integrative model incorporating somatic work, trauma-informed therapy, EMDR, health and nutrition, to help clients make lasting changes for meaningful life. Karen enjoys working with adults and couples.
(704) 666-8823 View (704) 666-8823
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Camilla Rogers, Ph.D.
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
Mooresville, NC 28117
Not accepting new clients
In addition to psychotherapy, I offer psychoanalysis as an Associate of the New Orleans-Birmingham Psychoanalytic Center.
I am a licensed psychologist treating depression, bipolar and anxiety disorders, relationship difficulties, health-related stress, and career and work problems. In addition to helping people find relief from depression and anxiety, I have a particular focus on helping the person understand how his/her mind works so that experiences can be more fulfilling and internal life, more rich and meaningful. I work to recognize and build upon personal strengths, cultivate resilience and enhance optimal functioning. See CamillaRogersPhD.com
In addition to psychotherapy, I offer psychoanalysis as an Associate of the New Orleans-Birmingham Psychoanalytic Center.
I am a licensed psychologist treating depression, bipolar and anxiety disorders, relationship difficulties, health-related stress, and career and work problems. In addition to helping people find relief from depression and anxiety, I have a particular focus on helping the person understand how his/her mind works so that experiences can be more fulfilling and internal life, more rich and meaningful. I work to recognize and build upon personal strengths, cultivate resilience and enhance optimal functioning. See CamillaRogersPhD.com
(704) 216-4090 View (704) 216-4090
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Integrated Holistic Solutions, PLLC
Lic Clinical Mental Health Counselor Supervisor, DBH, LCMHCS, BCIM, BC-TMH, NCC
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Huntersville, NC 28070  (Online Only)
The clinicians at Integrated Holistic Solutions, PLLC are qualified, credentialed, and licensed professionals whose primary mission is to provide quality therapeutic care and organizational training to the surrounding community. Their goal is to empower people; to enrich lives; to give you control of your outcomes; and to restore your body, mind and spirit back to their optimal states of functioning. The certified and licensed clinicians at Integrated Holistic Solutions have over 28 years of experience and are trained in equipping clients with the tools necessary to maximize their environment and enhance their well-being.
The clinicians at Integrated Holistic Solutions, PLLC are qualified, credentialed, and licensed professionals whose primary mission is to provide quality therapeutic care and organizational training to the surrounding community. Their goal is to empower people; to enrich lives; to give you control of your outcomes; and to restore your body, mind and spirit back to their optimal states of functioning. The certified and licensed clinicians at Integrated Holistic Solutions have over 28 years of experience and are trained in equipping clients with the tools necessary to maximize their environment and enhance their well-being.
(704) 896-6044 x1 View (704) 896-6044 x1
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Christian Beheler
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Cornelius, NC 28031
Christian Beheler is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with over 4 years of experience in mental health. Christian is passionate about breaking mental health stigmas and normalizing therapy. She specializes in depression, anxiety, relationship issues, coping skills, and self esteem Christian is passionate about working with adolescents and adults from all walks of life. Christian realizes her patients are the experts in their life and she wishes to walk along side as they tell their story.
Christian Beheler is a Licensed Clinical Social Worker (LCSW) with over 4 years of experience in mental health. Christian is passionate about breaking mental health stigmas and normalizing therapy. She specializes in depression, anxiety, relationship issues, coping skills, and self esteem Christian is passionate about working with adolescents and adults from all walks of life. Christian realizes her patients are the experts in their life and she wishes to walk along side as they tell their story.
(980) 575-5103 View (980) 575-5103
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Susette Ritenour
Counselor, MA, LCMHC
Verified Verified
Huntersville, NC 28078
Not accepting new clients
As an LCMHC, I treat clients with symptoms of anxiety, depression, substance use, grief/loss and trauma (child & adult). I provide guidance on developing personal boundaries and limit setting, conduct couples/marital counseling, and provide pastoral integration if requested. Treatment modalities include providing emotional support, developing coping skills for managing stress and anxiety, reshaping negative thought patterns, and gaining insight into sources of behavior and feelings. I help clients grow by improving the parts of their life that are not working.
As an LCMHC, I treat clients with symptoms of anxiety, depression, substance use, grief/loss and trauma (child & adult). I provide guidance on developing personal boundaries and limit setting, conduct couples/marital counseling, and provide pastoral integration if requested. Treatment modalities include providing emotional support, developing coping skills for managing stress and anxiety, reshaping negative thought patterns, and gaining insight into sources of behavior and feelings. I help clients grow by improving the parts of their life that are not working.
(704) 272-2384 View (704) 272-2384
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Perri C. May
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Mooresville, NC 28117
I have been in the mental health field for over 15 years providing therapy to children, adolescents and adults. I believe that all people have a desire to improve their life. Through my counseling services, clients are provided tools to empower and understand themselves, as well as, improve their relationship with others. When clients are provided empathetic listening, and effective interpersonal skills to deal with anger, stress and communicate more effectively, success is a given and a healthier person arises. Allow me to take this powerful journey with you!
I have been in the mental health field for over 15 years providing therapy to children, adolescents and adults. I believe that all people have a desire to improve their life. Through my counseling services, clients are provided tools to empower and understand themselves, as well as, improve their relationship with others. When clients are provided empathetic listening, and effective interpersonal skills to deal with anger, stress and communicate more effectively, success is a given and a healthier person arises. Allow me to take this powerful journey with you!
(704) 893-8396 View (704) 893-8396
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Jessica Nichole Crowe
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, MSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Huntersville, NC 28078
I believe that therapy is the best gift you could ever give yourself. Anyone can benefit from taking the time to understand how their minds operate and what parts of their identity are challenging the peace, happiness, and love they deserve. As a person-centered therapist, I understand the value of meeting an individual where they are at with their lives and building off their strengths/resources. My goal as your therapist is to provide empowerment and the instillation of hope for whatever change you want to create in your life.
I believe that therapy is the best gift you could ever give yourself. Anyone can benefit from taking the time to understand how their minds operate and what parts of their identity are challenging the peace, happiness, and love they deserve. As a person-centered therapist, I understand the value of meeting an individual where they are at with their lives and building off their strengths/resources. My goal as your therapist is to provide empowerment and the instillation of hope for whatever change you want to create in your life.
(704) 912-0692 View (704) 912-0692
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Stafford & Associates Counseling, PLLC
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MSW, LCSW, EdD
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Mooresville, NC 28117
Everyone needs a champion! You're here and so are we! Whether you have certain challenges, experiences or emotions that have been impacting your life, we believed that our group of talented therapists can provide you with a safe and non-judgmental space to explore and understand these issues more deeply. We are eager to work with you and can offer guidance, support and practical strategies to help you navigate through challenges and develop healthier coping mechanisms. We're committed to help you gain personal growth, self discovery, and gaining the tools necessary to lead a more fulfilling life. We look forward to working with you.
Everyone needs a champion! You're here and so are we! Whether you have certain challenges, experiences or emotions that have been impacting your life, we believed that our group of talented therapists can provide you with a safe and non-judgmental space to explore and understand these issues more deeply. We are eager to work with you and can offer guidance, support and practical strategies to help you navigate through challenges and develop healthier coping mechanisms. We're committed to help you gain personal growth, self discovery, and gaining the tools necessary to lead a more fulfilling life. We look forward to working with you.
(704) 508-9656 View (704) 508-9656
Psychoanalytic Therapists

Does psychoanalytic therapy work?

Psychoanalytic therapy derives from the work of Sigmund Freud. In this type of therapy, discovering buried thoughts and emotions from the unconscious will help a person work through their difficulties and negative behaviors. Research shows that psychoanalytic therapy can be highly effective, with patients reporting improvement in mood, quality of life, and overall well-being.

How long are people typically in psychoanalytic therapy?

Traditional psychoanalysis is in-depth and is conducted in five sessions every week. Today, modern psychoanalytic therapy is less intense and normally incorporates as few as one or two sessions a week. In some cases, positive change can occur quickly. However, if the condition, difficulty, or behavior is deep-seated, improvement may require many months or years of therapy.

Is psychoanalytic therapy suitable for young people?

Children and adolescents can benefit from this type of therapy. Many kids and teens are often unable to form and communicate their thoughts and emotions. Psychoanalytic therapy uses specific techniques such as dream analysis, symbolism, and free association or word association; all of which can be useful tools for less-communicative young people. Through this therapy, a patient will hopefully make connections between what they feel inside and how the world works outside.

Can psychoanalytic therapy be done online?

Modern-day psychoanalytic therapy is very different from traditional psychoanalysis. While an individual can sit face-to-face with the psychoanalyst for multiple sessions a week, they do not have to. Today, psychoanalytic therapy can be effectively conducted online or by phone. The key is that the individual confronts what is repressed and avoided, and this can be done whether in person or over online video.