Therapists in Manhattan Beach, CA
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A Licensed Psychotherapist specializing in trauma, crisis, grief, anxiety, depression, and relationships. Veronica provides an empathetic and caring environment to work through challenges without judgment. Veronica obtained her B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Applied Developmental Psychology and Master’s in Social Welfare at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). She is trained in CBT, DBT, and family and couples therapy. She is also certified in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and the administration of Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) and Deep-Brain Theta Stimulation.
A Licensed Psychotherapist specializing in trauma, crisis, grief, anxiety, depression, and relationships. Veronica provides an empathetic and caring environment to work through challenges without judgment. Veronica obtained her B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Applied Developmental Psychology and Master’s in Social Welfare at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). She is trained in CBT, DBT, and family and couples therapy. She is also certified in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and the administration of Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) and Deep-Brain Theta Stimulation.
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Robin L Kusilka
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT, AT
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 (Online Only)
There are times that life can feel overwhelming whether due to trauma, stress, anxiety, depression or life transitions. I would like to join you on your journey toward wholeness and well-being as you navigate through life's trying times. I utilize an integrative holistic approach, allowing for unique and unlimited growth and potential. In my collaborative approach my goal in the therapeutic relationship is for each client to feel heard, respected and understood. I customize each client's needs and treatment using a variety of tools including psycho-education, mindfulness, meditation, body awareness and art.
There are times that life can feel overwhelming whether due to trauma, stress, anxiety, depression or life transitions. I would like to join you on your journey toward wholeness and well-being as you navigate through life's trying times. I utilize an integrative holistic approach, allowing for unique and unlimited growth and potential. In my collaborative approach my goal in the therapeutic relationship is for each client to feel heard, respected and understood. I customize each client's needs and treatment using a variety of tools including psycho-education, mindfulness, meditation, body awareness and art.
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Specialty training in: - Brainspotting- effective method for variety of emotional and somatic conditions such as depression, anxiety, trauma.
Wellness matters in obtaining a higher quality of life. Daily stressors and emotions impact our well-being and ability to grow. By using the mindful approach, we can process the emotions and traumas that are stuck in the body through aches, anxiety, depression, flashbacks, and triggers. We can work on increasing intimacy, respect, and affection in a relationship. I am a bilingual speaking (Croatian/English) marriage and family therapist and I work with individuals, couples, youths, adults, and families of all ethnic backgrounds, religions, and sexual orientations.
Specialty training in: - Brainspotting- effective method for variety of emotional and somatic conditions such as depression, anxiety, trauma.
Wellness matters in obtaining a higher quality of life. Daily stressors and emotions impact our well-being and ability to grow. By using the mindful approach, we can process the emotions and traumas that are stuck in the body through aches, anxiety, depression, flashbacks, and triggers. We can work on increasing intimacy, respect, and affection in a relationship. I am a bilingual speaking (Croatian/English) marriage and family therapist and I work with individuals, couples, youths, adults, and families of all ethnic backgrounds, religions, and sexual orientations.
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Feeling overwhelmed, anxious, or down? Life can be a rollercoaster, and it's tough when it starts affecting your relationships, work, school, or friendships. Maybe you're finding it hard to concentrate, or your anxiety is holding you back from reaching your goals. You might be struggling to connect with others or facing challenges in your personal and professional life. Together we will focus on your specific goals, whether it's building better relationships, finding confidence in your abilities, or finding balance and fulfillment in your daily life. You deserve to thrive, and I'm here to help you get there.
Feeling overwhelmed, anxious, or down? Life can be a rollercoaster, and it's tough when it starts affecting your relationships, work, school, or friendships. Maybe you're finding it hard to concentrate, or your anxiety is holding you back from reaching your goals. You might be struggling to connect with others or facing challenges in your personal and professional life. Together we will focus on your specific goals, whether it's building better relationships, finding confidence in your abilities, or finding balance and fulfillment in your daily life. You deserve to thrive, and I'm here to help you get there.
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Jonathan Morin
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 (Online Only)
I'm an experienced psychotherapist skilled in working with individuals and families. I've treated adults with stress, anxiety/depression, relationship and career struggles and teenagers with behavioral/emotional problems, academic issues and parent-child conflicts. I primarily utilize strengths-based, cognitive behavioral and solution-focused approaches to help people identify and apply their own personal strengths to work effectively through different life circumstances.
I'm an experienced psychotherapist skilled in working with individuals and families. I've treated adults with stress, anxiety/depression, relationship and career struggles and teenagers with behavioral/emotional problems, academic issues and parent-child conflicts. I primarily utilize strengths-based, cognitive behavioral and solution-focused approaches to help people identify and apply their own personal strengths to work effectively through different life circumstances.
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Carter Care Therapeutic Services, Margena Carter
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
If you're experiencing depression, low self-esteem, isolation, stress, anxiety, grief & loss, substance abuse, internet addiction, childhood trauma, PTSD, codependency, relational difficulties, abusive relationships, divorce, domestic violence, anger issues, a child with behavioral problems, LBGTQ issues, or you work in entertainment, we're here for you.
Are you interested in living life to the fullest but struggle to achieve it? You've taken the first steps towards healing. Carter Care Therapeutic Services is dedicated to you! Regardless of what you're going through, our team of Licensed Therapist will strive to bring out the best in you. You're not alone. We can assist you in resolving your past pain! We will affirm your strengths and challenge you to use them. While promoting insight, healing and change in an environment full of warmth and genuineness. Carter Care Therapist are here to provide a safe, unbiased and non-judgmental environment.
If you're experiencing depression, low self-esteem, isolation, stress, anxiety, grief & loss, substance abuse, internet addiction, childhood trauma, PTSD, codependency, relational difficulties, abusive relationships, divorce, domestic violence, anger issues, a child with behavioral problems, LBGTQ issues, or you work in entertainment, we're here for you.
Are you interested in living life to the fullest but struggle to achieve it? You've taken the first steps towards healing. Carter Care Therapeutic Services is dedicated to you! Regardless of what you're going through, our team of Licensed Therapist will strive to bring out the best in you. You're not alone. We can assist you in resolving your past pain! We will affirm your strengths and challenge you to use them. While promoting insight, healing and change in an environment full of warmth and genuineness. Carter Care Therapist are here to provide a safe, unbiased and non-judgmental environment.
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Christina Morse
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT, PPSC
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 (Online Only)
Whether you are facing an immediate life stressor or looking for intentional ways to manage your life, talking with a culturally sensitive and experienced clinician can help you in your journey. I have worked with individuals and families for over 30 years in various capacities and bring expertise in the areas of anxiety and relationship conflict in couples and families. The ways in which I support clients is holistic, individually designed and stems from Humanistic and Mindfulness based approaches. I look forward to supporting your healing, growth and overall wellness.
Whether you are facing an immediate life stressor or looking for intentional ways to manage your life, talking with a culturally sensitive and experienced clinician can help you in your journey. I have worked with individuals and families for over 30 years in various capacities and bring expertise in the areas of anxiety and relationship conflict in couples and families. The ways in which I support clients is holistic, individually designed and stems from Humanistic and Mindfulness based approaches. I look forward to supporting your healing, growth and overall wellness.
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Albert A Knapp Jr
Psychologist, PsyD, BCBA-D, RPT-S
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
I specialize in the treatment of Autism Spectrum Disorders, disruptive behavior disorders, depression, anxiety, OCD, and trauma.
I enjoy working with children, tweens, teenagers, and young adults, from a Play Therapy and CBT perspective.
I specialize in the treatment of Autism Spectrum Disorders, disruptive behavior disorders, depression, anxiety, OCD, and trauma.
I enjoy working with children, tweens, teenagers, and young adults, from a Play Therapy and CBT perspective.
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You can be helped by cognitive-behavior therapy for depression, anxiety, anger, childhood abuse, domestic violence, obsessive-compulsive disorder or hoarding.
My successful client is interested in bettering themselves, is open to suggestions and is willing to work hard to improve their life. I would enjoy assisting you in bringing joy, adventure and romance back to your relationship. Are you stuck in a job where you feel unfulfilled? I can help you create a position, or market yourself to find satisfaction in your job. Is depression or anxiety hindering you from doing things you enjoy? You're likely to respond to my CBT based program to assist you in recognizing patterns that are holding you prisoner and keeping you from your dreams.
You can be helped by cognitive-behavior therapy for depression, anxiety, anger, childhood abuse, domestic violence, obsessive-compulsive disorder or hoarding.
My successful client is interested in bettering themselves, is open to suggestions and is willing to work hard to improve their life. I would enjoy assisting you in bringing joy, adventure and romance back to your relationship. Are you stuck in a job where you feel unfulfilled? I can help you create a position, or market yourself to find satisfaction in your job. Is depression or anxiety hindering you from doing things you enjoy? You're likely to respond to my CBT based program to assist you in recognizing patterns that are holding you prisoner and keeping you from your dreams.
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Victoria Zal
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 (Online Only)
You matter! I'm here to assist you in making your relationships succeed, starting with communication that makes a difference. Together we will uncover your beauty and resilience. Begin your quest to heal, understand and find answers, as well as empower your positive growth. Besides my passion for relationships, couples therapy, psychology, art and life I have experience with parenting, marriage, divorce, dating, couples issues, dealing with family members with ADHD, autism, depression, anxiety, low self esteem, grief, loss, immigration, teenagers, not fitting in and much more. Call/Text 310.746.7223
You matter! I'm here to assist you in making your relationships succeed, starting with communication that makes a difference. Together we will uncover your beauty and resilience. Begin your quest to heal, understand and find answers, as well as empower your positive growth. Besides my passion for relationships, couples therapy, psychology, art and life I have experience with parenting, marriage, divorce, dating, couples issues, dealing with family members with ADHD, autism, depression, anxiety, low self esteem, grief, loss, immigration, teenagers, not fitting in and much more. Call/Text 310.746.7223
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Margaret Mae Chen South Bay Child & Family Therapy
Marriage & Family Therapist, JD, LMFT
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
Do anxiety, fear, guilt, shame, or anger limit you from relating and living fully? Are you facing adversity, at a crossroads, or worried about yourself or a loved one? Are you feeling disconnected, dissatisfied, and stuck? Do you need individual, couples, or family therapy? If you answered yes to any of these questions, know that you are not alone. With courage, compassion, and curiosity, you can adapt, transform, and overcome the circumstances that prevent you from living your best life.
Do anxiety, fear, guilt, shame, or anger limit you from relating and living fully? Are you facing adversity, at a crossroads, or worried about yourself or a loved one? Are you feeling disconnected, dissatisfied, and stuck? Do you need individual, couples, or family therapy? If you answered yes to any of these questions, know that you are not alone. With courage, compassion, and curiosity, you can adapt, transform, and overcome the circumstances that prevent you from living your best life.
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Sierra Rose Brown
Marriage & Family Therapist Associate, MA, AMFT
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266
I work with clients presenting with a number of needs including depression, anxiety, personality or behavioral struggles, trauma, grief and other stressors.
I specialize in working with people who have a desire to improve their daily functioning and quality of life. I want to work with clients to determine what will work best for them and their unique circumstances. I offer therapy for children, adolescents, adults and elders alike.
I work with clients presenting with a number of needs including depression, anxiety, personality or behavioral struggles, trauma, grief and other stressors.
I specialize in working with people who have a desire to improve their daily functioning and quality of life. I want to work with clients to determine what will work best for them and their unique circumstances. I offer therapy for children, adolescents, adults and elders alike.
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Eshan Sun
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 (Online Only)
You're an Asian-American professional who has achieved much in your life, and yet, despite all of your successes, you're still unhappy. You find yourself angry with other people, worried about how things will turn out, disappointed when things don't go your way, and frustrated with all of the above. You know that there has to be more to life than your robotic routine, but you haven't been able to figure out what that is yet.
You're an Asian-American professional who has achieved much in your life, and yet, despite all of your successes, you're still unhappy. You find yourself angry with other people, worried about how things will turn out, disappointed when things don't go your way, and frustrated with all of the above. You know that there has to be more to life than your robotic routine, but you haven't been able to figure out what that is yet.
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Are you tired of being tired? Are you frustrated? Do you need support moving past your present circumstances and blind spots? Do you wish to cultivate more coping skills. Do you wish to increase your confidence. Do you wish to have your thinking serve you as a post to harassing you?
Are you tired of being tired? Are you frustrated? Do you need support moving past your present circumstances and blind spots? Do you wish to cultivate more coping skills. Do you wish to increase your confidence. Do you wish to have your thinking serve you as a post to harassing you?
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Have you been feeling exhausted, overwhelmed, and disconnected from others? Do you tend to self-doubt, or have previously been called a “people pleaser”? These problems are far too common when we experience difficulty with boundaries, and challenges with our self esteem. Are you ready to improve your connection with yourself and others?
Have you been feeling exhausted, overwhelmed, and disconnected from others? Do you tend to self-doubt, or have previously been called a “people pleaser”? These problems are far too common when we experience difficulty with boundaries, and challenges with our self esteem. Are you ready to improve your connection with yourself and others?
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Thank you for viewing my profile. I have 3 graduate degrees, all in mental/behavioral health, licenses in Co. and CA., and I am comfortable in working with a vast array of issues. I have worked in several mental health settings throughout my career, including: community mental health, hospitals, dialysis centers and private practice. My theory basis is psychodynamic and cognitive behavioral, but I always work with the patient in their comfort level and style. I strongly feel that therapeutic success comes from my ability to help others help themselves. I look forward to potentially working with you. Dr. Jacks
Thank you for viewing my profile. I have 3 graduate degrees, all in mental/behavioral health, licenses in Co. and CA., and I am comfortable in working with a vast array of issues. I have worked in several mental health settings throughout my career, including: community mental health, hospitals, dialysis centers and private practice. My theory basis is psychodynamic and cognitive behavioral, but I always work with the patient in their comfort level and style. I strongly feel that therapeutic success comes from my ability to help others help themselves. I look forward to potentially working with you. Dr. Jacks
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Dr. Colleen Long - Clarity California
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
Manhattan Beach, CA 90266 (Online Only)
Clarity California provides therapy, psychological, and neuropsychological assessment for individuals aged 5-85, for; diagnostic clarification, memory/executive functioning issues, ADHD, learning disabilities, personality testing, pre-operative surgery evaluations (gastric sleeve, gastric bypass, spinal cord stimulator). We also provide evaluations for egg donor and gestational surrogate candidates.
Clarity California provides therapy, psychological, and neuropsychological assessment for individuals aged 5-85, for; diagnostic clarification, memory/executive functioning issues, ADHD, learning disabilities, personality testing, pre-operative surgery evaluations (gastric sleeve, gastric bypass, spinal cord stimulator). We also provide evaluations for egg donor and gestational surrogate candidates.
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Evelyn Jacobson
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254
My areas of specialization include parenting support, family therapy, depression, anxiety, and stage of life issues with teens and adults.
I strive to create safe space where clients can feel comfortable examining their strengths and challenges. I see myself as a guide on this journey of self-discovery, and I believe it's important to look together at the multiple contexts that affect us as individuals, from our family backgrounds to the meanings that we attach to our experiences in order to find our authenticity. I use an individualized approach grounded in family systems to guide clients on their journeys of self-exploration, weaving mindfulness and cognitive behavioral techniques into sessions.
My areas of specialization include parenting support, family therapy, depression, anxiety, and stage of life issues with teens and adults.
I strive to create safe space where clients can feel comfortable examining their strengths and challenges. I see myself as a guide on this journey of self-discovery, and I believe it's important to look together at the multiple contexts that affect us as individuals, from our family backgrounds to the meanings that we attach to our experiences in order to find our authenticity. I use an individualized approach grounded in family systems to guide clients on their journeys of self-exploration, weaving mindfulness and cognitive behavioral techniques into sessions.
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Roxanne Horta LCSW, Inc.
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Redondo Beach, CA 90278 (Online Only)
I am a millennial therapist and life coach dedicated to empowering women to find their path, embrace their uniqueness, and live life on their terms. I specialize in helping individuals facing life-altering shifts such as divorce, breakups, career changes, and parenthood. As a First-Gen Latina, I understand the pressure many of us face to meet certain cultural and societal timelines. We get trapped in a vicious cycle of anxious, negative thought patterns, debilitating stress and worry, and unnecessary pressure to meet others’ expectations or follow a path that is not our own.
I am a millennial therapist and life coach dedicated to empowering women to find their path, embrace their uniqueness, and live life on their terms. I specialize in helping individuals facing life-altering shifts such as divorce, breakups, career changes, and parenthood. As a First-Gen Latina, I understand the pressure many of us face to meet certain cultural and societal timelines. We get trapped in a vicious cycle of anxious, negative thought patterns, debilitating stress and worry, and unnecessary pressure to meet others’ expectations or follow a path that is not our own.
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Veronica Calkins
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Hermosa Beach, CA 90254 (Online Only)
A Licensed Psychotherapist specializing in trauma, crisis, grief, anxiety, depression, and relationships. Veronica provides an empathetic and caring environment to work through challenges without judgment. Veronica obtained her B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Applied Developmental Psychology and Master’s in Social Welfare at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). She is trained in CBT, DBT, and family and couples therapy. She is also certified in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and the administration of Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) and Deep-Brain Theta Stimulation.
A Licensed Psychotherapist specializing in trauma, crisis, grief, anxiety, depression, and relationships. Veronica provides an empathetic and caring environment to work through challenges without judgment. Veronica obtained her B.A. in Psychology with a minor in Applied Developmental Psychology and Master’s in Social Welfare at the University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA). She is trained in CBT, DBT, and family and couples therapy. She is also certified in Eye Movement Desensitization and Reprocessing (EMDR) and the administration of Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation (TMS) and Deep-Brain Theta Stimulation.
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Kaiser (Out-of-Network) Therapists
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The professionals listed here have self-identified as accepting Kaiser insurance. That does not necessarily mean that they are employed or in-network with Kaiser. It may simply mean that they can work with you, as an out-of-network provider, if your KP plan allows.
Please confirm when you make an appointment that the Therapist you select serves your benefit plan. Or learn more about your options by visiting Kaiser Permanente here.
The professionals listed here have self-identified as accepting Kaiser insurance. That does not necessarily mean that they are employed or in-network with Kaiser. It may simply mean that they can work with you, as an out-of-network provider, if your KP plan allows.
Please confirm when you make an appointment that the Therapist you select serves your benefit plan. Or learn more about your options by visiting Kaiser Permanente here.