Life Coaching Therapists in Hesperia, CA

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Dr. Terri Thomas
Counselor, PsyD, MA
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Life throws many challenges our way and we choose which action to take in responding to those challenges. I've worked with people from various social, political, and ethnic backgrounds and the one thing that everyone has in common is that we all face challenges in life. There are numerous reasons that people seek mental health professionals, and those reasons are very personal and unique to each person. Finding the right professional to guide you in learning more about your mental health diagnosis, getting you through an immediate crisis, or feelings of uncertainty are important in getting you through tough times.
Life throws many challenges our way and we choose which action to take in responding to those challenges. I've worked with people from various social, political, and ethnic backgrounds and the one thing that everyone has in common is that we all face challenges in life. There are numerous reasons that people seek mental health professionals, and those reasons are very personal and unique to each person. Finding the right professional to guide you in learning more about your mental health diagnosis, getting you through an immediate crisis, or feelings of uncertainty are important in getting you through tough times.
(760) 853-5086 View (760) 853-5086
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Holistic Counseling & Wellness
Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345  (Online Only)
Welcome to Holistic Counseling and Wellness. We believe in treating the whole person and not just their diagnosis. We offer traditional approaches to therapy such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Solution Focused Therapy as well as Equine Therapy and Personal Coaching. Our goal is to make you feel supported and to help you process and heal. Please take a few minutes to check out our website. If you feel we are a good fit or you, reach out to us for a free 15 minute consultation or to schedule your first appointment.
Welcome to Holistic Counseling and Wellness. We believe in treating the whole person and not just their diagnosis. We offer traditional approaches to therapy such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and Solution Focused Therapy as well as Equine Therapy and Personal Coaching. Our goal is to make you feel supported and to help you process and heal. Please take a few minutes to check out our website. If you feel we are a good fit or you, reach out to us for a free 15 minute consultation or to schedule your first appointment.
(442) 600-5917 View (442) 600-5917
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Lavina Ellison
Marriage & Family Therapist
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345  (Online Only)
Greetings everyone! I'm Lavina, Licensed Marriage Family Therapist. In life, we have ups and downs. The ups are usually exciting, fun, and easy to handle. The downs on the other hand (Depression, anxiety, trauma, loss of a job, break-up, illness, grief, etc), can be devastating and life altering. Guess what? It's okay to ask for help when life gets difficult. It's okay to say, "I don't know how to handle or fix this!" There's courage and bravery in taking the steps to wellness. I'm here to offer you that help. My passion is to work with those struggling to heal and who wants to learn how to conquer life's difficulties.
Greetings everyone! I'm Lavina, Licensed Marriage Family Therapist. In life, we have ups and downs. The ups are usually exciting, fun, and easy to handle. The downs on the other hand (Depression, anxiety, trauma, loss of a job, break-up, illness, grief, etc), can be devastating and life altering. Guess what? It's okay to ask for help when life gets difficult. It's okay to say, "I don't know how to handle or fix this!" There's courage and bravery in taking the steps to wellness. I'm here to offer you that help. My passion is to work with those struggling to heal and who wants to learn how to conquer life's difficulties.
(442) 313-2249 View (442) 313-2249
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Henry Cuellar
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Growing up I experienced various traumatic events in my life which led me to a journey of healing.
My name is Henry Cuellar and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. I'm originally from Honduras and have been in the States since I was 11 years old. I've been in the mental health field for over 10 years and I'm passionate about helping individuals in their healing journey. I've been in the mental health field for various years and have extensive experience working in addiction medicine. I work with clients who are wanting to explore themselves to be the best version they can be and heal parts of themselves that need healing.
Growing up I experienced various traumatic events in my life which led me to a journey of healing.
My name is Henry Cuellar and I am a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. I'm originally from Honduras and have been in the States since I was 11 years old. I've been in the mental health field for over 10 years and I'm passionate about helping individuals in their healing journey. I've been in the mental health field for various years and have extensive experience working in addiction medicine. I work with clients who are wanting to explore themselves to be the best version they can be and heal parts of themselves that need healing.
(760) 512-8805 View (760) 512-8805
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Dina Vineberg
Counselor, LCPC
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
I am especially comfortable treating those suffering from anxiety, trauma, depression, low self worth, and adapting to life transitions of all sorts.
Great to meet you! I am Dina Vineberg and am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) in California, and also a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) in Florida. I have experience working with many cultures and ages. I specialize in working with anxious and/or depressed individual adult clients and use Client Centered Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and Narrative Therapy to induce a brighter outlook.
I am especially comfortable treating those suffering from anxiety, trauma, depression, low self worth, and adapting to life transitions of all sorts.
Great to meet you! I am Dina Vineberg and am a Licensed Professional Clinical Counselor (LPCC) in California, and also a Licensed Mental Health Counselor (LMHC) in Florida. I have experience working with many cultures and ages. I specialize in working with anxious and/or depressed individual adult clients and use Client Centered Therapy, Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, and Narrative Therapy to induce a brighter outlook.
(760) 273-5860 View (760) 273-5860
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Hea Jin (Susan) Ko
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Hello, thank you for visiting my page. My name is Susan Hea Jin Ko, and I'm a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT). I received my B.S. Psychology from Syracuse University and M.S. MFT from University of Southern California (USC). I specialize in working with Anxiety, Depression, and Life Stressors. I am a bilingual therapist (able to provide therapy in Korean and English). I attended and received many trainings in Anxiety and Depression Disorders and am comfortable treating those diagnoses in a professional way.
Hello, thank you for visiting my page. My name is Susan Hea Jin Ko, and I'm a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist (LMFT). I received my B.S. Psychology from Syracuse University and M.S. MFT from University of Southern California (USC). I specialize in working with Anxiety, Depression, and Life Stressors. I am a bilingual therapist (able to provide therapy in Korean and English). I attended and received many trainings in Anxiety and Depression Disorders and am comfortable treating those diagnoses in a professional way.
(760) 678-1929 View (760) 678-1929
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Sandy Gilcrest
Psychologist, LCP
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
I help my clients through the many life transitions that can cause feelings of grief and loss, anxiety and depression, and fear of an unknown future, such as loss of a loved one, loss of career or divorce.
Hello, my name is Sandy Gilcrest and I am a licensed psychologist in Northern California with an Educational Doctorate (Ed.D.) in Counseling Psychology. I have 25 years of experience in the field of psychology. I have been honored by many clients who have said that I am a great listener and that they feel comfortable discussing even the most uncomfortable issues with me because I focus on problem-solving, skill building, and helping them explore their lives in ways that bring more meaning and positivity into their daily lives.
I help my clients through the many life transitions that can cause feelings of grief and loss, anxiety and depression, and fear of an unknown future, such as loss of a loved one, loss of career or divorce.
Hello, my name is Sandy Gilcrest and I am a licensed psychologist in Northern California with an Educational Doctorate (Ed.D.) in Counseling Psychology. I have 25 years of experience in the field of psychology. I have been honored by many clients who have said that I am a great listener and that they feel comfortable discussing even the most uncomfortable issues with me because I focus on problem-solving, skill building, and helping them explore their lives in ways that bring more meaning and positivity into their daily lives.
(760) 903-7059 View (760) 903-7059
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Karina S Bravo
Marriage & Family Therapist, PhD, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92340  (Online Only)
The key to achieving the quality of life you desire is a cumulative process of growing in wisdom, right choices & maturity. The feeling or thought that you are doing it alone can be devastating & sometimes you need an honest and caring individual to walk alongside you, lend you a hand and help you get unstuck from frustration, denial, or conflict. As a MFT with over 20 years experience I specialize in providing assistance to people, such as yourself, that just need a little support to overcome the obstacles of fear, indecision, or sadness that are in their relationships.
The key to achieving the quality of life you desire is a cumulative process of growing in wisdom, right choices & maturity. The feeling or thought that you are doing it alone can be devastating & sometimes you need an honest and caring individual to walk alongside you, lend you a hand and help you get unstuck from frustration, denial, or conflict. As a MFT with over 20 years experience I specialize in providing assistance to people, such as yourself, that just need a little support to overcome the obstacles of fear, indecision, or sadness that are in their relationships.
(909) 726-7029 View (909) 726-7029
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Allan Herem LMFT
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Amid the ups and down and trials of life, it is easy to succumb to the, "If you think that the grass is greener on the other side" mentality. Well, it's time to water your grass. Although events can affect our lives, a true master of the art of living learns to weather the ups and downs and not allow circumstance to control our relationships, and more importantly, our own self-worth, dignity, and willingness to put one step in front of the other. Counseling is an avenue to help yourself achieve this control over your life. Please visit my website for more information regarding my services: allanheremlmft.site
Amid the ups and down and trials of life, it is easy to succumb to the, "If you think that the grass is greener on the other side" mentality. Well, it's time to water your grass. Although events can affect our lives, a true master of the art of living learns to weather the ups and downs and not allow circumstance to control our relationships, and more importantly, our own self-worth, dignity, and willingness to put one step in front of the other. Counseling is an avenue to help yourself achieve this control over your life. Please visit my website for more information regarding my services: allanheremlmft.site
(949) 612-2761 View (949) 612-2761
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Donald J. Cook
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
I seek to treat all people; i see the person, not the age, weight, shape, hair-colour, skin, diagnosis, politics, or life-problem. Every client is my respected teacher. We are all valid and worthy human beings--even if we don't believe it! You are Wonderful! i treat PTSD, ADD/HD, school-related issues, anxiety, panic Disorders, depression, age-related issues, legal-related personal issues, and will also perform therapy with stabilized Bipolar, and Schizophrenic sufferers. i perform individual, couples, marital/pre-marital, family, and group sessions. i also perform individual/group parenting, and anger management sessions.
I seek to treat all people; i see the person, not the age, weight, shape, hair-colour, skin, diagnosis, politics, or life-problem. Every client is my respected teacher. We are all valid and worthy human beings--even if we don't believe it! You are Wonderful! i treat PTSD, ADD/HD, school-related issues, anxiety, panic Disorders, depression, age-related issues, legal-related personal issues, and will also perform therapy with stabilized Bipolar, and Schizophrenic sufferers. i perform individual, couples, marital/pre-marital, family, and group sessions. i also perform individual/group parenting, and anger management sessions.
(760) 203-4580 View (760) 203-4580
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Patricia Alice
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
In addition, I have extensive life experiences that co-exist with my knowledge, training and skills.
I have many years experience working with and helping people find solutions to their problems. We all experience difficulties and talking with someone unconnected to your or your family can be helpful. I have worked with all age groups and have experience with a wide range of issues. These include (but are not limited to): couples and relationships; family difficulties; children and their wide range of issues; parenting; depression and anxiety; loss, tauma and grief; substance abuse recovery; anger management, loss of control and domestic violence issues. If you are in need of experience, give me a call.
In addition, I have extensive life experiences that co-exist with my knowledge, training and skills.
I have many years experience working with and helping people find solutions to their problems. We all experience difficulties and talking with someone unconnected to your or your family can be helpful. I have worked with all age groups and have experience with a wide range of issues. These include (but are not limited to): couples and relationships; family difficulties; children and their wide range of issues; parenting; depression and anxiety; loss, tauma and grief; substance abuse recovery; anger management, loss of control and domestic violence issues. If you are in need of experience, give me a call.
(760) 621-3863 View (760) 621-3863
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Sarah Kindred, MFTT
Pre-Licensed Professional
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345  (Online Only)
Currently NOT accepting new clients through Diosa Counseling Center (check back monthly). Please request me directly. We all carry our own unique stories, yet we share a universal need for support during life's most challenging moments. My focus is to create a peaceful space and ultimately provide support for others as they navigate life's twists and turns. With over half a decade of experience, I've worked closely with teens and young adults with issues like identity development, self-esteem, anxiety, and depression. I am an ally to the LGBTQIA+ community and have experience working with individuals from all walks of life.
Currently NOT accepting new clients through Diosa Counseling Center (check back monthly). Please request me directly. We all carry our own unique stories, yet we share a universal need for support during life's most challenging moments. My focus is to create a peaceful space and ultimately provide support for others as they navigate life's twists and turns. With over half a decade of experience, I've worked closely with teens and young adults with issues like identity development, self-esteem, anxiety, and depression. I am an ally to the LGBTQIA+ community and have experience working with individuals from all walks of life.
(760) 437-2676 View (760) 437-2676
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Laura Lien-Mitobe
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345  (Online Only)
Hi, I am Laura Lien-Mitobe, LMFT. My primary goal as a therapist is to partner with you to provide an affirming, client-centered, non-judgmental, caring, supportive, safe space for you to explore experiences, patterns, and feelings that may be causing you pain and/or hindering your personal goals and growth. I have worked with all age groups as individuals, couples, families, and the LGBTQ+ community. I am experienced with trauma, pet loss therapy, grief, anxiety, depression, and compassion fatigue. I have a special interest in supporting LGBTQ+ people who are coming out later in life.
Hi, I am Laura Lien-Mitobe, LMFT. My primary goal as a therapist is to partner with you to provide an affirming, client-centered, non-judgmental, caring, supportive, safe space for you to explore experiences, patterns, and feelings that may be causing you pain and/or hindering your personal goals and growth. I have worked with all age groups as individuals, couples, families, and the LGBTQ+ community. I am experienced with trauma, pet loss therapy, grief, anxiety, depression, and compassion fatigue. I have a special interest in supporting LGBTQ+ people who are coming out later in life.
(951) 494-2743 View (951) 494-2743
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Lazaro Cardenas
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92340
My goal is to help you grow from your struggles, heal from your pain, and move forward to where you want to be in your life.
**ACCEPTING NEW CLIENTS** My focus is to provide support for individuals, couples and family systems to find healing and identify each individual's inner strengths.
My goal is to help you grow from your struggles, heal from your pain, and move forward to where you want to be in your life.
**ACCEPTING NEW CLIENTS** My focus is to provide support for individuals, couples and family systems to find healing and identify each individual's inner strengths.
(442) 200-2613 View (442) 200-2613
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Anthony Yrigollen
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Each session is an opportunity to be courageous, genuine, and support each client in living their life with intent.
Hello, my name is Anthony. I am grateful for the opportunity to introduce myself; I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker experienced in working with adults and adolescents. I believe in the dignity and self-worth of every individual; moreover, I see therapy as an opportunity to join with each client and support them in living their healthiest and best life possible! I have been practicing as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker since April 2017. I am skilled in working with adults and adolescents experiencing anxiety, depression, stress, and trauma.
Each session is an opportunity to be courageous, genuine, and support each client in living their life with intent.
Hello, my name is Anthony. I am grateful for the opportunity to introduce myself; I am a Licensed Clinical Social Worker experienced in working with adults and adolescents. I believe in the dignity and self-worth of every individual; moreover, I see therapy as an opportunity to join with each client and support them in living their healthiest and best life possible! I have been practicing as a Licensed Clinical Social Worker since April 2017. I am skilled in working with adults and adolescents experiencing anxiety, depression, stress, and trauma.
(707) 517-0612 View (707) 517-0612
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Ricardo Martinez
Psychologist, CP
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
As mentioned above, I generally work with adults who are struggling with anxiety, stress, depression, work-life balance, alcohol and/or substance abuse issues, and those who are in recovery from alcohol and substance abuse.
Hi there, I'm Dr. Rick. My name is Dr. Ricardo (Rick) Martinez and I am a Licensed Psychologist based in Pasadena, CA and working with clients across California via telehealth. I work with adults and specialize in helping clients who struggle with anxiety, stress, depression, those with alcohol and/or substance abuse issues, their family members, and those in recovery. I also specialize in serving clients from diverse multicultural backgrounds including those from the LGBTQ+ community.
As mentioned above, I generally work with adults who are struggling with anxiety, stress, depression, work-life balance, alcohol and/or substance abuse issues, and those who are in recovery from alcohol and substance abuse.
Hi there, I'm Dr. Rick. My name is Dr. Ricardo (Rick) Martinez and I am a Licensed Psychologist based in Pasadena, CA and working with clients across California via telehealth. I work with adults and specialize in helping clients who struggle with anxiety, stress, depression, those with alcohol and/or substance abuse issues, their family members, and those in recovery. I also specialize in serving clients from diverse multicultural backgrounds including those from the LGBTQ+ community.
(650) 955-0134 View (650) 955-0134
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Infinite Hope Counseling
Marriage & Family Therapist, MA, LMFT
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Hesperia, CA 92345
Currently accepting New Clients! “Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% how we react to it” Dennis P. Kimbro. I am a Bilingual (English and Spanish) Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. Life is beautiful. However, when we least expect it, we are faced with challenges in life. I am here to provide guidance, support, tools to assist clients in processing, learning and overcoming those unexpected challenges. My experienced is in working with individuals of all ages. I have provided therapy in Juvenile Hall, Adult Drug & Alcohol Rehabilitation Center, outpatient and inpatient and schools.
Currently accepting New Clients! “Life is 10% what happens to us and 90% how we react to it” Dennis P. Kimbro. I am a Bilingual (English and Spanish) Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. Life is beautiful. However, when we least expect it, we are faced with challenges in life. I am here to provide guidance, support, tools to assist clients in processing, learning and overcoming those unexpected challenges. My experienced is in working with individuals of all ages. I have provided therapy in Juvenile Hall, Adult Drug & Alcohol Rehabilitation Center, outpatient and inpatient and schools.
(442) 200-2096 View (442) 200-2096
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Valerie L Barrows
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT, CEO, Owner
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Hesperia, CA 92345
Valerie Barrows has had the pleasure to gain 25 years of experience working in the field of psychology. She opened her private practice in 2012 and has built a team of therapists whose mission is to provide comfort & hope in a nurturing environment and dedicated to provide mental health services to individuals, couples, and families to enhance their quality of life. To create a safe and supportive environment that strives to meet the unique needs of each individual. The staff has experience working with but not limited to depression, grief, divorce issues, anxiety, relationships.
Valerie Barrows has had the pleasure to gain 25 years of experience working in the field of psychology. She opened her private practice in 2012 and has built a team of therapists whose mission is to provide comfort & hope in a nurturing environment and dedicated to provide mental health services to individuals, couples, and families to enhance their quality of life. To create a safe and supportive environment that strives to meet the unique needs of each individual. The staff has experience working with but not limited to depression, grief, divorce issues, anxiety, relationships.
(760) 621-8495 View (760) 621-8495
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Patricia Ulloa-Green
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Greetings! I'm Patricia Ulloa-Green, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with an extensive 24-year background in the mental health field. Dedicated to assisting individuals navigating adversity, I bring a passion for helping others discover creative solutions tailored to their unique needs. Having triumphed over my own challenges, I approach therapy with a deep understanding of life's complexities. In today's world, trauma is pervasive, and my goal is to provide compassion, kindness, and empathy as we embark on your healing journey together.
Greetings! I'm Patricia Ulloa-Green, a licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with an extensive 24-year background in the mental health field. Dedicated to assisting individuals navigating adversity, I bring a passion for helping others discover creative solutions tailored to their unique needs. Having triumphed over my own challenges, I approach therapy with a deep understanding of life's complexities. In today's world, trauma is pervasive, and my goal is to provide compassion, kindness, and empathy as we embark on your healing journey together.
(760) 623-0758 View (760) 623-0758
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Tameka Coleman
Marriage & Family Therapist, LMFT
Verified Verified
Hesperia, CA 92345
Welcome, my name is Tameka Coleman, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. I support individuals with difficulties including anxiety, depression, anger, mood swings trauma and unhealthy relationship patterns. I have experience working with adolescence, individual, couples and families. I have experience in evidence-based treatment modalities that include cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT), Attachment therapy (AT)and emotionally focused therapy (EFT). I am dedicated to helping clients make positive change and will meet you where you are while assisting you in obtaining your goals in therapy.
Welcome, my name is Tameka Coleman, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist. I support individuals with difficulties including anxiety, depression, anger, mood swings trauma and unhealthy relationship patterns. I have experience working with adolescence, individual, couples and families. I have experience in evidence-based treatment modalities that include cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT), dialectical behavioral therapy (DBT), Attachment therapy (AT)and emotionally focused therapy (EFT). I am dedicated to helping clients make positive change and will meet you where you are while assisting you in obtaining your goals in therapy.
(760) 304-1397 View (760) 304-1397
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Life Coaching Therapists

What can I expect from life coaching?

Clients and coaches will typically start by identifying the problem area(s) that the client hopes to address—then, the coach will help the client brainstorm potential solutions and explore concrete techniques to help the client attain their goals. Coaching is typically short-term and focused on finding solutions in the here and now, rather than exploring a client’s past. In addition to strategies aimed at the client’s specific concerns, coaches may encourage general stress management techniques such as meditation.

Can a life coach help treat anxiety?

Because the majority of life coaches are not licensed clinicians, they are not qualified to diagnose or treat anxiety. Anyone struggling with anxiety or another mental health condition should seek help from a licensed mental health practitioner. However, some coaching clients who struggle with subclinical anxiety report that working with their coach on other problems—such as career dissatisfaction or unhealthy habits—has a positive effect on their anxiety.

Can life coaching be done online?

Yes. While life coaching often happens in person, many coaches conduct sessions over the phone or via online platforms such as Zoom or Skype. Because life coaches are not subject to local licensing regulations in the same way that therapists are, they are able to see clients who live in other locations.

How long does life coaching last?

Life coaching tends to be a shorter-term process than therapy, though it does not always unfold over a specific period of time and is instead based on the coach’s or the client’s preferences. Coaching often takes place over three to 12 months but may be shorter or longer if necessary.