Trauma and PTSD Therapists in 10021

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Andrea Green Lewis
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-R
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
As a seasoned Licensed Clinical Social Worker, I bring a wealth of experience to my remote practice. My expertise lies in helping individuals through the complexities of trauma recovery, all sorts of challenges and life transitions, relationship issues and endings, as well as overcoming feeling stuck personally or professionally. I'm dedicated to creating a compassionate and non-judgmental space where we can work through life's challenges together and learn ways to feel more content, hopeful and fulfilled.
As a seasoned Licensed Clinical Social Worker, I bring a wealth of experience to my remote practice. My expertise lies in helping individuals through the complexities of trauma recovery, all sorts of challenges and life transitions, relationship issues and endings, as well as overcoming feeling stuck personally or professionally. I'm dedicated to creating a compassionate and non-judgmental space where we can work through life's challenges together and learn ways to feel more content, hopeful and fulfilled.
(631) 337-4241 View (631) 337-4241
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Therapy and Beyond by Cari Feingold, LCSW
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021
Trauma is something that can affect any person at anytime. It often leaves a person feeling lost on how to understand their trauma and best deal with it. Trauma informed therapy can include some very heavy topics, but therapy is so much more than just a place to be sad, it’s a place to better understand oneself and grow as a person. I prioritize creating an environment of trust, laughter, self-discovery and learning; I am not a therapist who will sit in a chair and nod my head for an hour. I strive to make my clients feel comfortable and at ease. If that means sitting on the floor for an hour while we speak, then the floor it is!
Trauma is something that can affect any person at anytime. It often leaves a person feeling lost on how to understand their trauma and best deal with it. Trauma informed therapy can include some very heavy topics, but therapy is so much more than just a place to be sad, it’s a place to better understand oneself and grow as a person. I prioritize creating an environment of trust, laughter, self-discovery and learning; I am not a therapist who will sit in a chair and nod my head for an hour. I strive to make my clients feel comfortable and at ease. If that means sitting on the floor for an hour while we speak, then the floor it is!
(347) 652-2258 View (347) 652-2258
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Authenticity Mental Health Counseling, PLLC
Counselor, LMHC-NY, LPC-NJ, NCC
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
Waitlist for new clients
Using evidence-based, trauma-informed modalities, such as EMDR, and attachment-based approaches, I help adults identify negative core beliefs they may hold about themselves so they can replace them with more reality-based perspectives and insights.
What’s keeping you from living the life you envision? Let’s figure that out together. Everyone can benefit from counseling to get through a rough time, a life transition, relationship difficulties or a break-up, a job loss or big promotion, present and past traumas, family conflict, aging, imposter syndrome, self-doubt, difficulty with boundaries, and more. If you’re willing to uncover what's getting in your way, I can help you break through barriers, let go of what weighs you down, develop better coping skills, tap into your strengths, and live more authentically.
Using evidence-based, trauma-informed modalities, such as EMDR, and attachment-based approaches, I help adults identify negative core beliefs they may hold about themselves so they can replace them with more reality-based perspectives and insights.
What’s keeping you from living the life you envision? Let’s figure that out together. Everyone can benefit from counseling to get through a rough time, a life transition, relationship difficulties or a break-up, a job loss or big promotion, present and past traumas, family conflict, aging, imposter syndrome, self-doubt, difficulty with boundaries, and more. If you’re willing to uncover what's getting in your way, I can help you break through barriers, let go of what weighs you down, develop better coping skills, tap into your strengths, and live more authentically.
(718) 395-5268 View (718) 395-5268
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Phillip Carroll
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LMSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
I focus on the queer, trans, nonbinary, and gender nonconforming populations in my work but welcome individuals of all sexualities and gender expressions. I use trauma informed modalities as a lens to focus on what’s going on in your life in the moment as well as how your past has shaped you.
I focus on the queer, trans, nonbinary, and gender nonconforming populations in my work but welcome individuals of all sexualities and gender expressions. I use trauma informed modalities as a lens to focus on what’s going on in your life in the moment as well as how your past has shaped you.
(347) 609-7329 View (347) 609-7329
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Katelyn Zhinin
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
Katelyn supports journeys to emotional clarity, trauma healing and self discovery. As a first gen queer Latina graduate from Columbia University, she is passionate about providing unconditional positive regard to adults to help them understand their struggles with anxious symptoms, trauma experiences and tough life changes. Her approach is person centered and non judgmental, meeting you where you are in this moment in time to elevate your best self. Finding space to exist is difficult, Katelyn can provide a welcoming space where you will feel heard and accepted
Katelyn supports journeys to emotional clarity, trauma healing and self discovery. As a first gen queer Latina graduate from Columbia University, she is passionate about providing unconditional positive regard to adults to help them understand their struggles with anxious symptoms, trauma experiences and tough life changes. Her approach is person centered and non judgmental, meeting you where you are in this moment in time to elevate your best self. Finding space to exist is difficult, Katelyn can provide a welcoming space where you will feel heard and accepted
(914) 386-2204 View (914) 386-2204
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Sally Keller
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
I address specific concerns such as anxiety, depression, loss and trauma, as well as more general struggles to generate meaning and vitality in work, relationships, and life experience.
I work with individuals and couples who are struggling with some aspect of daily living - relationships, family, job; or who face a crisis such as illness or loss. I work to help clients understand the emotions, beliefs, and behaviors that may contribute to their difficulties. Strategies that have been adaptive or protective at an earlier time may no longer be needed and may interfere with life satisfaction. I have a flexible approach designed to strengthen coping skills and to foster resilience. My work involves both careful listening and active collaboration, with a focus on each person's unique history.
I address specific concerns such as anxiety, depression, loss and trauma, as well as more general struggles to generate meaning and vitality in work, relationships, and life experience.
I work with individuals and couples who are struggling with some aspect of daily living - relationships, family, job; or who face a crisis such as illness or loss. I work to help clients understand the emotions, beliefs, and behaviors that may contribute to their difficulties. Strategies that have been adaptive or protective at an earlier time may no longer be needed and may interfere with life satisfaction. I have a flexible approach designed to strengthen coping skills and to foster resilience. My work involves both careful listening and active collaboration, with a focus on each person's unique history.
(516) 350-0634 View (516) 350-0634
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Dr. Michelle Carr
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
I graduated from CSPP in San Francisco and have advanced training in Addiction (including Adult Children of Alcoholics and Co-Dependency) and Trauma (including EMDR and EFT).
Congratulations on taking the first step toward a deeper self awareness! I work with my clients to help them understand how personal challenges like anxiety, depression, addiction or trauma may be influencing their relationships, work, or daily life. My style is interactive, engaged, and non-judgmental while integrating the psychological, emotional, physical and spiritual well being of the whole person. I also feel that it is important to incorporate laughter into the healing process! Once we can find the humor in our human-ness it becomes easier to forgive ourselves and others as we move toward more authentic happiness.
I graduated from CSPP in San Francisco and have advanced training in Addiction (including Adult Children of Alcoholics and Co-Dependency) and Trauma (including EMDR and EFT).
Congratulations on taking the first step toward a deeper self awareness! I work with my clients to help them understand how personal challenges like anxiety, depression, addiction or trauma may be influencing their relationships, work, or daily life. My style is interactive, engaged, and non-judgmental while integrating the psychological, emotional, physical and spiritual well being of the whole person. I also feel that it is important to incorporate laughter into the healing process! Once we can find the humor in our human-ness it becomes easier to forgive ourselves and others as we move toward more authentic happiness.
(831) 288-2303 View (831) 288-2303
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Norman Wyloge
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, LCSW
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021
I have been treating a wide range of patients in long and short term individual and group treatment for many years. I effect personality change through the use of interpretation, clarification and behavior modification. I emphasize with my patients a sense of well being. My ideal patient has to not only be motivated to change but willing to work through and resolve difficult aspects in their lives.
I have been treating a wide range of patients in long and short term individual and group treatment for many years. I effect personality change through the use of interpretation, clarification and behavior modification. I emphasize with my patients a sense of well being. My ideal patient has to not only be motivated to change but willing to work through and resolve difficult aspects in their lives.
(914) 327-2032 View (914) 327-2032
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Julie Siegel
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-R
Verified Verified
5 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
I have years of experience working with adults and adolescents who want to address anxiety, relationship issues, depression, life transitions, and trauma.
It takes courage to seek out therapy. Whether you are feeling anxious, depressed, stuck in life, or are experiencing relationship issues- you want to build a more satisfying life, with hope for new possibilities. Therapy can help you to not only relieve suffering, but also to make lasting changes that will allow you to grow into a more authentic and empowered person. I will support you as well as challenge you to explore your thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, and develop the tools to change patterns that may be working against you.
I have years of experience working with adults and adolescents who want to address anxiety, relationship issues, depression, life transitions, and trauma.
It takes courage to seek out therapy. Whether you are feeling anxious, depressed, stuck in life, or are experiencing relationship issues- you want to build a more satisfying life, with hope for new possibilities. Therapy can help you to not only relieve suffering, but also to make lasting changes that will allow you to grow into a more authentic and empowered person. I will support you as well as challenge you to explore your thoughts, feelings, and behaviors, and develop the tools to change patterns that may be working against you.
(347) 751-6409 View (347) 751-6409
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Evangelos Daniels
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, CSAT, CPTT
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
It can be said that selecting a therapist is just as challenging as deciding to enter into treatment. Therefore, this is my pledge to you: I will welcome you into treatment with compassion, professional competence, and a sincere sensitivity to the specific circumstances motivating you to seek therapy at this time. I am committed to providing the best care possible to individuals and couples who are in crisis, experiencing psychological pain, and are seeking treatment for a range of conditions including: intimacy issues, sex addiction, porn addiction, codependency, & relational trauma.
It can be said that selecting a therapist is just as challenging as deciding to enter into treatment. Therefore, this is my pledge to you: I will welcome you into treatment with compassion, professional competence, and a sincere sensitivity to the specific circumstances motivating you to seek therapy at this time. I am committed to providing the best care possible to individuals and couples who are in crisis, experiencing psychological pain, and are seeking treatment for a range of conditions including: intimacy issues, sex addiction, porn addiction, codependency, & relational trauma.
(646) 430-9882 View (646) 430-9882
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Schwartz Counseling
Counselor, LMHC
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021
We go through your trauma chronologically and then once we have a good idea of what the issues are, we move into the treatment phase of EMDR to remove traumatic responses from the nervous system.
Now accepting new clients. Jacob works with adults and Cassidy works with people from age 6 and up. We only offer EMDR and focus on recovery from traumatic experiences, family interactions and past relationships. We are passionate about helping New Yorkers from all walks of life.
We go through your trauma chronologically and then once we have a good idea of what the issues are, we move into the treatment phase of EMDR to remove traumatic responses from the nervous system.
Now accepting new clients. Jacob works with adults and Cassidy works with people from age 6 and up. We only offer EMDR and focus on recovery from traumatic experiences, family interactions and past relationships. We are passionate about helping New Yorkers from all walks of life.
(914) 292-3558 View (914) 292-3558
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Laura Pearl
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW, PhD
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021
I have particular interest in working with LGBTQ+ people; immigrants; children of immigrants; neurodivergent people; and survivors of childhood trauma.
Do you have trouble figuring out what you truly want in life, or how to get it? Do you struggle to understand why you act, speak, or feel as you do? Do you fear that you may not always make good decisions? Maybe you are often overwhelmed by strong emotions—or maybe you have a difficult time feeling anything at all. Maybe it seems like there is something essential missing from your life: intimacy, confidence, vitality, motivation, self-compassion, growth, peace. Maybe you have lost touch with who you really are, or maybe you want to know yourself more deeply. Therapy can help.
I have particular interest in working with LGBTQ+ people; immigrants; children of immigrants; neurodivergent people; and survivors of childhood trauma.
Do you have trouble figuring out what you truly want in life, or how to get it? Do you struggle to understand why you act, speak, or feel as you do? Do you fear that you may not always make good decisions? Maybe you are often overwhelmed by strong emotions—or maybe you have a difficult time feeling anything at all. Maybe it seems like there is something essential missing from your life: intimacy, confidence, vitality, motivation, self-compassion, growth, peace. Maybe you have lost touch with who you really are, or maybe you want to know yourself more deeply. Therapy can help.
(646) 736-4226 View (646) 736-4226
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Michelle Glantz
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021
In addition to working with everyday concerns and life transitions, I have extensive experience helping individuals struggling with issues of PTSD and complex trauma, anxiety disorders, OCD, emotional dysegulation, and mood disorders.
It is my belief that anyone can benefit from psychotherapy as we all have unique concerns influencing our daily lives. Working in a safe and comfortable environment, I can work to help you know yourself better and to live your life the way you want. We will work collaboratively to explore and understand the psychological roots of emotional suffering by focusing on self-reflection and the examination and resolution of inner conflicts. I can help you to explore and modify your patterns of thinking in order to gain a deeper understanding of yourself and to improve coping with daily struggles.
In addition to working with everyday concerns and life transitions, I have extensive experience helping individuals struggling with issues of PTSD and complex trauma, anxiety disorders, OCD, emotional dysegulation, and mood disorders.
It is my belief that anyone can benefit from psychotherapy as we all have unique concerns influencing our daily lives. Working in a safe and comfortable environment, I can work to help you know yourself better and to live your life the way you want. We will work collaboratively to explore and understand the psychological roots of emotional suffering by focusing on self-reflection and the examination and resolution of inner conflicts. I can help you to explore and modify your patterns of thinking in order to gain a deeper understanding of yourself and to improve coping with daily struggles.
(323) 498-2956 View (323) 498-2956
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Jenna Knoll
Counselor, LMHC, MS
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021
Helping people rediscover their confidence and best selves comes naturally to me. My warmth, compassion, humor, transparency, and enthusiasm allow me to easily establish and maintain a strong rapport with my clients. I work with clients who struggle with anxiety, depression, trauma, life adjustments, and fertility journeys. I am passionate about helping children, teenagers, young adults, adults, and couples reach their highest potential.
Helping people rediscover their confidence and best selves comes naturally to me. My warmth, compassion, humor, transparency, and enthusiasm allow me to easily establish and maintain a strong rapport with my clients. I work with clients who struggle with anxiety, depression, trauma, life adjustments, and fertility journeys. I am passionate about helping children, teenagers, young adults, adults, and couples reach their highest potential.
(516) 636-2422 View (516) 636-2422
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Nicole Eskenasi
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
Whatever it is that you’re currently struggling with, my hope is to help you to find more balance, be kinder to yourself, and feel empowered to make changes. To do this, I strive to create a therapeutic space that feels safe, inclusive, and non-judgmental. I’m a clinical psychologist licensed in New York. I work with adolescents and adults, and specialize in the treatment of anxiety, panic, OCD, trauma, insomnia, and coping with life changes and stress.
Whatever it is that you’re currently struggling with, my hope is to help you to find more balance, be kinder to yourself, and feel empowered to make changes. To do this, I strive to create a therapeutic space that feels safe, inclusive, and non-judgmental. I’m a clinical psychologist licensed in New York. I work with adolescents and adults, and specialize in the treatment of anxiety, panic, OCD, trauma, insomnia, and coping with life changes and stress.
(914) 877-3141 View (914) 877-3141
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Lara J Bolsom
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-R, EMDR
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021
I specialize in EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing) which is a technique originally developed to treat trauma, and it does so effectively.
Stress, depression, and anxiety can take its toll and cause a person to feel that they are not living up to their potential. My job as a licensed psychotherapist is to be the facilitator for your change, to help you harness your strengths, and provide you with the tools to lead you to success. Working together, you will learn how to become stronger, healthier, more positive and how to make informed decisions.
I specialize in EMDR (Eye Movement Desensitization Reprocessing) which is a technique originally developed to treat trauma, and it does so effectively.
Stress, depression, and anxiety can take its toll and cause a person to feel that they are not living up to their potential. My job as a licensed psychotherapist is to be the facilitator for your change, to help you harness your strengths, and provide you with the tools to lead you to success. Working together, you will learn how to become stronger, healthier, more positive and how to make informed decisions.
(347) 921-4019 View (347) 921-4019
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Amber Nemeth
Psychologist, PhD
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021
I am a licensed clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst with over fifteen years of experience treating adolescents and adults. I have particular experience working with creative individuals and specialized training in the treatment of trauma and addictive behaviors. I have worked with many intelligent and creative people from all walks of life. Together we seek to better understand the nature of their difficulties, find relief from harmful repetitive patterns, and ultimately create a more fulfilling life.
I am a licensed clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst with over fifteen years of experience treating adolescents and adults. I have particular experience working with creative individuals and specialized training in the treatment of trauma and addictive behaviors. I have worked with many intelligent and creative people from all walks of life. Together we seek to better understand the nature of their difficulties, find relief from harmful repetitive patterns, and ultimately create a more fulfilling life.
(646) 872-5275 View (646) 872-5275
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Alga Kati Singh
Counselor, CRC, LMHC
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
Would you like to heal your psychological stress and trauma? Soothing life's distresses with a calming balm allows you to heal and carry on - whole and integrated. In our work together, I utilize EMDR, IFS and mindfulness that lead to new mental pathways; working with your critical voices, softening them and allowing you to embrace your natural state with love and companionship and above all else a peace of mind.
Would you like to heal your psychological stress and trauma? Soothing life's distresses with a calming balm allows you to heal and carry on - whole and integrated. In our work together, I utilize EMDR, IFS and mindfulness that lead to new mental pathways; working with your critical voices, softening them and allowing you to embrace your natural state with love and companionship and above all else a peace of mind.
(347) 308-6470 View (347) 308-6470
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Carrie Gelber Rosenfield, Psy.D.
Psychologist, PsyD
Verified Verified
New York, NY 10021  (Online Only)
Also, EMDR Certified (Advanced) treatment for trauma, anxiety, depression and other issues that have not responded to traditional treatments.
Our sessions begin with a conversation. What brings you here? What would you like to be different? What would your life look like if our work together is successful? With over 35 years of experience as a Licensed Clinical Psychologist we can quickly and jointly determine if we are a good fit. I work with adolescents and individual adults as well as couples experiencing relationship, intimacy and/or parenting issues. My expertise in psychodynamic, cognitive, and relational therapy, as well as EMDR provide a unique combination. Please see my website for more information: www.drcarrierosenfield.com
Also, EMDR Certified (Advanced) treatment for trauma, anxiety, depression and other issues that have not responded to traditional treatments.
Our sessions begin with a conversation. What brings you here? What would you like to be different? What would your life look like if our work together is successful? With over 35 years of experience as a Licensed Clinical Psychologist we can quickly and jointly determine if we are a good fit. I work with adolescents and individual adults as well as couples experiencing relationship, intimacy and/or parenting issues. My expertise in psychodynamic, cognitive, and relational therapy, as well as EMDR provide a unique combination. Please see my website for more information: www.drcarrierosenfield.com
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Peter C Turco
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, LCSW-R, CAS, CCTP, CAMS
Verified Verified
4 Endorsed
New York, NY 10021
He is also accredited as a Certified Addiction Specialist, a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, and a Certified Anger Management Specialist.
Psychotherapy is about transition, you are not necessarily bound by your patterns. It's also about simultaneously addressing symptoms and developing effective and lasting means of combating them. Life stressors, especially during difficult times, challenge us to approach these stressors in more effective ways. We must ask to reconsider ourselves, our behaviors, our responses, and our ability to engage with others.. The practice of psychotherapy is a creative, forward moving, and lasting transition to enhance all areas of one’s life.
He is also accredited as a Certified Addiction Specialist, a Certified Clinical Trauma Professional, and a Certified Anger Management Specialist.
Psychotherapy is about transition, you are not necessarily bound by your patterns. It's also about simultaneously addressing symptoms and developing effective and lasting means of combating them. Life stressors, especially during difficult times, challenge us to approach these stressors in more effective ways. We must ask to reconsider ourselves, our behaviors, our responses, and our ability to engage with others.. The practice of psychotherapy is a creative, forward moving, and lasting transition to enhance all areas of one’s life.
(646) 600-5063 View (646) 600-5063
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Trauma and PTSD Therapists

When should I seek treatment for trauma?

Not everyone who undergoes trauma needs therapy to heal, but many do. If, after experiencing a traumatic event, you find yourself struggling with symptoms such as nightmares, dissociation, irritability, or emotional numbness—especially if these symptoms last more than a month and are severe enough to interfere with your daily functioning—you may benefit from seeking out therapy with a trauma-informed provider.

How long does trauma therapy take?

Different types of therapy for trauma unfold on different timelines. Prolonged exposure therapy and cognitive processing therapy, for example, each take about three months, while trauma-informed CBT may last anywhere from 8 to 25 sessions. Other approaches, especially those that are less structured or that incorporate elements from multiple modalities, may be more open-ended, though many patients report feeling better within the first few months of treatment.

What happens if trauma is left untreated?

Unaddressed trauma can have serious—even devastating—effects on relationships, career, and day-to-day functioning. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) can lead people to distrust or lash out at others, making it difficult to maintain intimate relationships; it can also trigger symptoms such as flashbacks or hyperreactivity that can interfere with a person’s ability to function effectively, personally and/or professionally. Some sufferers turn to drugs to find relief. Symptoms may lessen on their own with time, but there is no guarantee that PTSD will resolve on its own.

Can PTSD come back after treatment?

It is possible for PTSD symptoms to recur months or years after successful treatment. This is because, like most mental health disorders, it is not possible to “cure” PTSD, and stressful life events may cause symptoms to recur in even the most resilient individuals. There is no shame in re-experiencing PTSD symptoms nor in returning to therapy when such relapses occur; indeed, many forms of trauma therapy explicitly encourage periodic “maintenance sessions” to reinforce coping skills and ensure that symptoms stay manageable.