Eating Disorders Counselling in Perth

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Sarah Reid Barnett
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
Having worked with addicted adults and their families and currently in school settings, I can offer safe space for a wide age range of clients over a wide range of issues including but not limited to; addiction, childhood trauma, self harm , eating disorders, self esteem, life stage transitions, conflict, loss, depression, anxiety and single session therapy.
There are many points in life when we feels cast adrift, unsure of how we feel or why we feel it. Unsure of how to move forward from our past or even from our present. Much of my work revolves around these moments, supporting my clients to find the right way forward. I work in an integrative, trauma informed way which allows me to tailor the way we work together and hold a compassionate safe space to collaborate within. I believe connection is a core human need and that no one should feel alone with their problems.
Having worked with addicted adults and their families and currently in school settings, I can offer safe space for a wide age range of clients over a wide range of issues including but not limited to; addiction, childhood trauma, self harm , eating disorders, self esteem, life stage transitions, conflict, loss, depression, anxiety and single session therapy.
There are many points in life when we feels cast adrift, unsure of how we feel or why we feel it. Unsure of how to move forward from our past or even from our present. Much of my work revolves around these moments, supporting my clients to find the right way forward. I work in an integrative, trauma informed way which allows me to tailor the way we work together and hold a compassionate safe space to collaborate within. I believe connection is a core human need and that no one should feel alone with their problems.
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Dr Anna Dako
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
A warm welcome. My name is Dr Anna Dako. As a trained therapist in somatic psychology, I believe that we are all born with inner resources that we inherit and embody and which are there to support us during hard times. What we often do not inherit are the skills in tapping into those resources. Being able to grow in capacity to help yourself with a gentle help of a practitioner is always a huge step in the right direction. In my practice, I always try to activate most natural methods for working with somatic experience, reflective expression, inner awareness and creative openness for change. To book a session, visit Dunami website.
A warm welcome. My name is Dr Anna Dako. As a trained therapist in somatic psychology, I believe that we are all born with inner resources that we inherit and embody and which are there to support us during hard times. What we often do not inherit are the skills in tapping into those resources. Being able to grow in capacity to help yourself with a gentle help of a practitioner is always a huge step in the right direction. In my practice, I always try to activate most natural methods for working with somatic experience, reflective expression, inner awareness and creative openness for change. To book a session, visit Dunami website.
01224 057048 View 01224 057048
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Dr Kathryn Quinn
Psychologist, PsychD, CPsychol
Verified Verified
Perth PH2
I am an experienced Clinical Psychologist with a proven track record of clinical effectiveness. I run an established and successful private practice, and offer a choice of both online or face-to-face appointments ensuring that my client's needs are at the forefront of all that I do. If you would like to discuss your situation further, or book an initial consultation, I would be delighted to hear from you.
I am an experienced Clinical Psychologist with a proven track record of clinical effectiveness. I run an established and successful private practice, and offer a choice of both online or face-to-face appointments ensuring that my client's needs are at the forefront of all that I do. If you would like to discuss your situation further, or book an initial consultation, I would be delighted to hear from you.
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Audrey Dawn Paton
Counsellor, MBACP Accred
Verified Verified
Perth PH2  (Online Only)
Thank you for taking the time to look at my page. i am an experienced counsellor who works with a wide range of presenting issues. The work we do together can be looking at events in your past that have impacted upon you and stay with you now, or the present and what is happening in your life that is making life difficult. Coping and adjusting to loss in any situation can be really tough, supporting you and offering you strategies can make the experience feel manageable Sometimes how we think does not often support or help us, therapy can explore and challenge this so we become more supportive of ourselves and rewrite the script.
Thank you for taking the time to look at my page. i am an experienced counsellor who works with a wide range of presenting issues. The work we do together can be looking at events in your past that have impacted upon you and stay with you now, or the present and what is happening in your life that is making life difficult. Coping and adjusting to loss in any situation can be really tough, supporting you and offering you strategies can make the experience feel manageable Sometimes how we think does not often support or help us, therapy can explore and challenge this so we become more supportive of ourselves and rewrite the script.
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Morgan Mitchell Emdr
Counsellor, GMBPsS
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
Trauma can include life-threatening events or simply moments where you were overwhelmed and felt helpless. A troubling or terrifying event has an impact on the whole person – it is held in the body, changes ways of thinking, and often comes with an overwhelming set of emotional and behavioural responses. At times, these changes and responses are unhelpful and seriously affect people’s quality of life and their ability to move forward. Working together, we explore and come to understand your current responses. We identify tools that you can use to rebuild your life in a way that works for you.
Trauma can include life-threatening events or simply moments where you were overwhelmed and felt helpless. A troubling or terrifying event has an impact on the whole person – it is held in the body, changes ways of thinking, and often comes with an overwhelming set of emotional and behavioural responses. At times, these changes and responses are unhelpful and seriously affect people’s quality of life and their ability to move forward. Working together, we explore and come to understand your current responses. We identify tools that you can use to rebuild your life in a way that works for you.
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Broomfield Psychology - Dr Laura Thomson
Psychologist, DCounsPsych, HCPC - Couns. Psych.
Verified Verified
Perth PH1  (Online Only)
Welcome to Broomfield Psychology, we provide psychology and psychotherapy services to children and families, young people and adults. I am Dr Laura Thomson and I work with people experiencing a wide range of difficulties and mental health problems. I offer a professional, experienced and effective therapeutic approach and will work collaboratively with you and your goals for change. I have a caring and approachable style and together we can work through the issues that have led you to seek support.
Welcome to Broomfield Psychology, we provide psychology and psychotherapy services to children and families, young people and adults. I am Dr Laura Thomson and I work with people experiencing a wide range of difficulties and mental health problems. I offer a professional, experienced and effective therapeutic approach and will work collaboratively with you and your goals for change. I have a caring and approachable style and together we can work through the issues that have led you to seek support.
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Kedras Clinics
Psychologist, PsychD, CPsychol
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
Imagine seeking growth and understanding, whether you're a child, adult, or professional aiming for performance enhancement. You need compassionate, experienced therapists who blend traditional therapy with neurofeedback. At Kedras Clinics we work with people by creating a safe space to explore emotions, develop coping strategies, and achieve personal goals. We support individuals navigating challenges and enhancing well-being to lead fulfilling, balanced lives. If this resonates with you, we are here to guide your journey towards self-awareness, resilience, and optimal performance using a mixture of therapy and neurofeedback.
Imagine seeking growth and understanding, whether you're a child, adult, or professional aiming for performance enhancement. You need compassionate, experienced therapists who blend traditional therapy with neurofeedback. At Kedras Clinics we work with people by creating a safe space to explore emotions, develop coping strategies, and achieve personal goals. We support individuals navigating challenges and enhancing well-being to lead fulfilling, balanced lives. If this resonates with you, we are here to guide your journey towards self-awareness, resilience, and optimal performance using a mixture of therapy and neurofeedback.
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Shirlae Carruthers
Counsellor, MBACP Accred
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
I can help you with a wide range of issues including anxiety, depression, loss and bereavement, stress, suicidal thoughts and relationship issues. I am a passionate believer in a 'Person Centred Approach' and the positive effect this type of counselling can have on a person. Having a safe space to talk about yourself and your life, where no judgement is made, will enable you to find your way back to a more positive way of being.
I can help you with a wide range of issues including anxiety, depression, loss and bereavement, stress, suicidal thoughts and relationship issues. I am a passionate believer in a 'Person Centred Approach' and the positive effect this type of counselling can have on a person. Having a safe space to talk about yourself and your life, where no judgement is made, will enable you to find your way back to a more positive way of being.
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Naomi Nyamudoka
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
I specialise in working with trauma and neurodivergence. I believe the relationship is key to the work and I will offer a warm and safe setting for us to explore what you chose to bring. Being autistic myself I can offer a different way of seeing things for non autistic clients and a shared lived experience for those autistic clients. I offer a non judgemental space for you to explore different parts of yourself. I strive to work in the best way for my clients individually meaning I do not have an agenda in mind other than to be fully present with you.
I specialise in working with trauma and neurodivergence. I believe the relationship is key to the work and I will offer a warm and safe setting for us to explore what you chose to bring. Being autistic myself I can offer a different way of seeing things for non autistic clients and a shared lived experience for those autistic clients. I offer a non judgemental space for you to explore different parts of yourself. I strive to work in the best way for my clients individually meaning I do not have an agenda in mind other than to be fully present with you.
01764 915840 View 01764 915840
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Douglas Sharp - Psychotherapy
Psychotherapist, MSc, MBACP Accred
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
Waitlist for new clients
I am a therapist and clinical supervisor. I provide a safe space for therapy and supervision where challenges and vulnerabilities can be brought into awareness, understood, and mobilised in a healthier way. Living means that we face challenges and some experiences leave us struggling to cope or to be at our best. I aim to help people clear a path for better flow in life and work. I value a healthy baseline - moving & eating well, sleeping soundly, making contact with nourishing people, and living with awareness. I am experienced in Gestalt and Deep Brain approaches - check out: www.relationalchange.org / www.deepbrainreorienting.com
I am a therapist and clinical supervisor. I provide a safe space for therapy and supervision where challenges and vulnerabilities can be brought into awareness, understood, and mobilised in a healthier way. Living means that we face challenges and some experiences leave us struggling to cope or to be at our best. I aim to help people clear a path for better flow in life and work. I value a healthy baseline - moving & eating well, sleeping soundly, making contact with nourishing people, and living with awareness. I am experienced in Gestalt and Deep Brain approaches - check out: www.relationalchange.org / www.deepbrainreorienting.com
01383 669119 View 01383 669119
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Robert McNeil Geelan
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
I am pleased to announce that I am now (dec, 2023) also a Solution-Focussed Hypnotherapist as well as a Certified Master Practitioner of NLP, Mental and Emotional Release Therapy. I am also Certified in Counselling Skills thro COSCA. Currently, I help clients with a range of issues from anxiety, feeling low, emotional regulation and phobias, and also to quit smoking. My journey began after hitting pretty much rock bottom after a co-dependency relationship with a narcissist. My search for answers took me to Canada and USA as well as my beautiful native Scotland.
I am pleased to announce that I am now (dec, 2023) also a Solution-Focussed Hypnotherapist as well as a Certified Master Practitioner of NLP, Mental and Emotional Release Therapy. I am also Certified in Counselling Skills thro COSCA. Currently, I help clients with a range of issues from anxiety, feeling low, emotional regulation and phobias, and also to quit smoking. My journey began after hitting pretty much rock bottom after a co-dependency relationship with a narcissist. My search for answers took me to Canada and USA as well as my beautiful native Scotland.
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Melissa Paton - Collaborative Minds Psychotherapy
Psychotherapist, MSc, MBABCP
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Perth PH1  (Online Only)
Are you feeling burnt out, stressed or anxious? Is it having an impact on your confidence and causing problems in your day to day life. If you've lost your way I can help you find techniques to cope with your symptoms and your situation. We will get to the root of your problem and figure out how to stop the vicious cycles. It's time to take some control back in your life. My mission is to help you reach your goals and find ways to make lasting change. I will work with you at your pace to formulate a unique plan to get you back on track, feel empowered and live a meaningful and fulfilled life.
Are you feeling burnt out, stressed or anxious? Is it having an impact on your confidence and causing problems in your day to day life. If you've lost your way I can help you find techniques to cope with your symptoms and your situation. We will get to the root of your problem and figure out how to stop the vicious cycles. It's time to take some control back in your life. My mission is to help you reach your goals and find ways to make lasting change. I will work with you at your pace to formulate a unique plan to get you back on track, feel empowered and live a meaningful and fulfilled life.
01382 919496 View 01382 919496
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Anne Robertson
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
I have experience of working with clients who have experienced sexual or emotional abuse. I can offer a safe, supportive space to work through these difficult experiences and find coping strategies. I also work with bereavement, self-esteem, anxiety and depression, relationship issues, and achieving your true potential within a study/work context. As a musician and actor myself, I am also interested in developing creativity within the arts. I offer UK-wide online or telephone sessions and in-person sessions in the Dundee and Angus area. I am also a qualified supervisor and enjoy working with both counsellors and students/trainees.
I have experience of working with clients who have experienced sexual or emotional abuse. I can offer a safe, supportive space to work through these difficult experiences and find coping strategies. I also work with bereavement, self-esteem, anxiety and depression, relationship issues, and achieving your true potential within a study/work context. As a musician and actor myself, I am also interested in developing creativity within the arts. I offer UK-wide online or telephone sessions and in-person sessions in the Dundee and Angus area. I am also a qualified supervisor and enjoy working with both counsellors and students/trainees.
01382 919376 View 01382 919376
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Prism Psychology
Psychologist, HCPC - Clin. Psych.
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Perth PH1  (Online Only)
Not accepting new clients
I work with a wide range of issues including: anxiety, depression, stress, psychological issues caused by physical health problems (e.g. diabetes, chronic pain), phobias, obsessive-compulsive issues (OCD), personality issues, low self-esteem, managing life transitions (such as retirement or having a baby) and many more issues. I specialise in working with individuals suffering from eating disorders (including anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa and binge eating disorder) and those who have experienced psychological trauma, including childhood sexual abuse and post-traumatic stress disorder.
I work with a wide range of issues including: anxiety, depression, stress, psychological issues caused by physical health problems (e.g. diabetes, chronic pain), phobias, obsessive-compulsive issues (OCD), personality issues, low self-esteem, managing life transitions (such as retirement or having a baby) and many more issues. I specialise in working with individuals suffering from eating disorders (including anorexia nervosa, bulimia nervosa and binge eating disorder) and those who have experienced psychological trauma, including childhood sexual abuse and post-traumatic stress disorder.
01427 809594 View 01427 809594
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Wendy Nicoll Counselling
Counsellor, MSc, MBACP
Verified Verified
Perth PH1
Not accepting new clients
Life throws us many challenges and we all need some help from time to time. Together we can explore uncomfortable thoughts and feelings in a safe and non-judgemental environment to help your cope better and think more fondly about yourself. I can help you reduce your anxiety or stress; improve low mood and wellbeing; increase your self-esteem; improve your self-confidence; reduce negative body image thoughts; replace yo-yo dieting with longer term sustainable strategies; cope with the impact of living in a larger body; help work towards stopping binge eating; and cope better with hormone related issues, perimenopause, and menopause.
Life throws us many challenges and we all need some help from time to time. Together we can explore uncomfortable thoughts and feelings in a safe and non-judgemental environment to help your cope better and think more fondly about yourself. I can help you reduce your anxiety or stress; improve low mood and wellbeing; increase your self-esteem; improve your self-confidence; reduce negative body image thoughts; replace yo-yo dieting with longer term sustainable strategies; cope with the impact of living in a larger body; help work towards stopping binge eating; and cope better with hormone related issues, perimenopause, and menopause.
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Cheryl Ramsay
Psychotherapist, MSc, MBABCP
Verified Verified
Blairgowrie PH13
I am a qualified and experienced CBT therapist specializing in depression and anxiety disorders including PTSD, phobias, OCD, health anxiety, social anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder, eating disorders and poor self esteem.
If you are looking for a talking therapy that can be tailored to suit your needs, delivered to you in the comfort of your home then get in touch to find out more about how I can help you recover from anxiety and depression.
I am a qualified and experienced CBT therapist specializing in depression and anxiety disorders including PTSD, phobias, OCD, health anxiety, social anxiety, generalized anxiety disorder, eating disorders and poor self esteem.
If you are looking for a talking therapy that can be tailored to suit your needs, delivered to you in the comfort of your home then get in touch to find out more about how I can help you recover from anxiety and depression.
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Online Therapists

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Dr Dorothy Tait
Psychologist, PsychD, HCPC - Clin. Psych.
Verified Verified
Glasgow G62  (Online Only)
Dr Dorothy Tait (also known as Dr Dot) has over 12 years of experience in the NHS delivering psychological interventions to adults struggling with their mental health. She is experienced in assessing, understanding and treating a breadth of diagnoses and psychological difficulties, ranging from mild to complex, in various NHS mental health settings around the UK. Dr Dot regularly works with people who struggle with Complex Trauma, PTSD, Addictions (drug and alcohol use, eating disorders, etc), Anxiety, Depression, Low Self-esteem and Self-confidence, Shyness, Social anxiety, Burnout and Grief / Bereavement and Self-harm.
Dr Dorothy Tait (also known as Dr Dot) has over 12 years of experience in the NHS delivering psychological interventions to adults struggling with their mental health. She is experienced in assessing, understanding and treating a breadth of diagnoses and psychological difficulties, ranging from mild to complex, in various NHS mental health settings around the UK. Dr Dot regularly works with people who struggle with Complex Trauma, PTSD, Addictions (drug and alcohol use, eating disorders, etc), Anxiety, Depression, Low Self-esteem and Self-confidence, Shyness, Social anxiety, Burnout and Grief / Bereavement and Self-harm.
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Susan Nagle
Counsellor, DCounsPsych, BACP
Verified Verified
Musselburgh EH21
Are you struggling with any of the following issues? Anxiety, eating disorders, low self-esteem, self-harm, identity issues, bereavement and loss, family conflicts, depression, trauma, relationship or mental health issues? We all experience times in our life when we feel easily overwhelmed or anxious, have difficulty in relationships, or lack purpose in life. I am passionate about supporting people to grow and heal through acceptance and understanding. I can offer you a free 15 minute consultation with no obligation, Just text or email me on 07932595306
Are you struggling with any of the following issues? Anxiety, eating disorders, low self-esteem, self-harm, identity issues, bereavement and loss, family conflicts, depression, trauma, relationship or mental health issues? We all experience times in our life when we feel easily overwhelmed or anxious, have difficulty in relationships, or lack purpose in life. I am passionate about supporting people to grow and heal through acceptance and understanding. I can offer you a free 15 minute consultation with no obligation, Just text or email me on 07932595306
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Ruth Micallef - Eating Disorder Specialist
Counsellor, MBACP
Verified Verified
Edinburgh EH3
I work with ARFID, Binge Eating Disorder, Bulimia Nervosa, Orthorexia, and EDNOS.
Do you often feel a sense of guilt or shame around food? Do thoughts of food become intrusive or overwhelming? Are you often binging or eating until you feel uncomfortable or sick? Perhaps you are fixated on 'healthy' or 'clean' eating? Maybe you 'purge' by excessively exercising, restricting, making yourself sick, using laxatives, or have a history of yo-yo dieting? Perhaps you avoid whole food groups and are often called a 'fussy' or 'picky' eater? Or a combination of any of the above? It sounds like you are struggling with an Eating Disorder!
I work with ARFID, Binge Eating Disorder, Bulimia Nervosa, Orthorexia, and EDNOS.
Do you often feel a sense of guilt or shame around food? Do thoughts of food become intrusive or overwhelming? Are you often binging or eating until you feel uncomfortable or sick? Perhaps you are fixated on 'healthy' or 'clean' eating? Maybe you 'purge' by excessively exercising, restricting, making yourself sick, using laxatives, or have a history of yo-yo dieting? Perhaps you avoid whole food groups and are often called a 'fussy' or 'picky' eater? Or a combination of any of the above? It sounds like you are struggling with an Eating Disorder!
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Alita Beaser
Counsellor, MSc, MBACP
Verified Verified
Aberdeen AB15
Are you in a place where things just aren't working for you anymore? Are you ready to take charge of your healing journey? I specialize in working with those struggling with anxiety, perfectionism, people-pleasing, trauma, eating disorders, self-harm, and low self-esteem. I have a special interest in those going through major life transitions, such as university students and expats. My deepest desire is that you feel safe to show up authentically, are supported in your vulnerability, and leave each session equipped with tools to help you accomplish your goals.
Are you in a place where things just aren't working for you anymore? Are you ready to take charge of your healing journey? I specialize in working with those struggling with anxiety, perfectionism, people-pleasing, trauma, eating disorders, self-harm, and low self-esteem. I have a special interest in those going through major life transitions, such as university students and expats. My deepest desire is that you feel safe to show up authentically, are supported in your vulnerability, and leave each session equipped with tools to help you accomplish your goals.
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Eating Disorders Counsellors

What happens in therapy for eating disorders?

In therapy for eating disorders, patients typically describe their eating and exercise behaviours, their patterns of eating in relation to stress, their beliefs about their body, the ways their eating behaviour affects their relationships, and their desire (or lack of it) to change. Such information helps the therapist understand the origins of the disorder and the role it plays in the patient’s life, important for guiding treatment. Attitudes and feelings about food and eating, body weight, and physical appearance are common topics of discussion throughout treatment.

What therapy types help with eating disorders?

Once any acute medical or psychiatric emergency is resolved, psychoactive medication is often prescribed, requiring the supervision of a psychiatrist. In addition, patients receive some form of nutritional counselling along with one or more forms of psychotherapy. For adolescents, family-based treatment is empirically validated and considered the first line of treatment; parents and their children meet weekly with a clinician as the adults are coached on how to nourish and psychologically support the young patient. Adults typically receive some form of individual psychotherapy, intended to resolve the cognitive and behavioural disturbances that underlie the disorder and to relieve the mood disturbances that accompany it. In addition, patients may also be helped by group therapy.

What is the goal of therapy for eating disorders?

The most immediate goal of treatment for eating disorders is to save the life of people who are on a path of starving themselves to death or engaging in eating patterns that are doing irreparable physical harm to their body. Once the acute medical danger is past, therapy is required to understand the nature of the disordered eating and/or exercise patterns, establish healthy eating behaviour, and to tackle the many erroneous beliefs and distorted self-perceptions that underlie eating disorders and continue to pose a threat to health and life. Therapy also addresses the impaired mood that not only accompanies eating disorders but intensifies the danger to health and life.

What are the limitations of therapy for eating disorders?

Therapy can be very helpful for eating disorders—but that can happen only after people recognise they have a condition that must be treated. Especially with anorexia, the distortions in self-image that accompany the disorder can keep people from acknowledging they have a problem. Individuals may in fact see their eating disorder as a badge of self-control. Those with binge-eating disorder may feel too ashamed to seek help. Therapy cannot help those who do not avail themselves of it.

How long does therapy last for eating disorders?

Because of their complexity, recovery from eating disorders is usually a long-term process—measured in months and years— often marked by setbacks and relapse. Some form of help, such as individual or group therapy, may be advisable for much of that time. It is a general rule of thumb that the longer the illness has endured and the dysregulated eating behaviour has taken root, the longer treatment is likely to be needed.