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Morgána Walker
Psychologist
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Northcote, VIC 3070
As a generalist psychologist with many years experience, I am pleased to be able to open my books again after a long and difficult few years of the COVID pandemic. My practice is once again hoping to support individuals, groups and families to improve their mental health and achieve their best lives. I myself have extensive experience in private practice, educational and clinical facilities and can facilitate this growth. I am solution-focused, client-centred, practitioner committed to achieving best practice outcomes for each individual.
As a generalist psychologist with many years experience, I am pleased to be able to open my books again after a long and difficult few years of the COVID pandemic. My practice is once again hoping to support individuals, groups and families to improve their mental health and achieve their best lives. I myself have extensive experience in private practice, educational and clinical facilities and can facilitate this growth. I am solution-focused, client-centred, practitioner committed to achieving best practice outcomes for each individual.
(03) 9118 9084 View (03) 9118 9084
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Raphael Elisha
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA Prov
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
I provide therapy for individuals and couples counselling. Through collaborative exploration, we can work to understand the core of your emotional needs and develop ways to both express and have these needs met.
I provide therapy for individuals and couples counselling. Through collaborative exploration, we can work to understand the core of your emotional needs and develop ways to both express and have these needs met.
(03) 8338 4411 View (03) 8338 4411
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Emma Brooks
Counsellor, AMHSW
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Emma is an accredited Mental Health Social Worker providing counselling to children, adolescents and adults. Emma has extensive experience supporting individuals of all ages who have experienced trauma, including sexual abuse, family violence and early childhood trauma. Emma is passionate about providing a safe and supportive counselling space to support clients with a range of presentations including PTSD, depression and anxiety. Therapeutic approaches include EMDR and Internal Family Systems. Saturday appointments are now available. Medicare rebates available for clients who have a current Mental Health Care Plan.
Emma is an accredited Mental Health Social Worker providing counselling to children, adolescents and adults. Emma has extensive experience supporting individuals of all ages who have experienced trauma, including sexual abuse, family violence and early childhood trauma. Emma is passionate about providing a safe and supportive counselling space to support clients with a range of presentations including PTSD, depression and anxiety. Therapeutic approaches include EMDR and Internal Family Systems. Saturday appointments are now available. Medicare rebates available for clients who have a current Mental Health Care Plan.
(03) 7003 2676 View (03) 7003 2676
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Hanna Janssen-Kallenberg
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
In order to support you navigating your life's challenges, I use a holistic approach, aiming to understand your personal struggles within the complexity of your life. I believe understanding the root cause of your emotional distress and unhealthy coping mechanisms is important to create lasting change. My work focuses on a trauma informed approach and I work with individuals experiencing anxiety, depression, post traumatic stress, chronic stress and burnout and issues with self-esteem. I also offer sessions in German.
In order to support you navigating your life's challenges, I use a holistic approach, aiming to understand your personal struggles within the complexity of your life. I believe understanding the root cause of your emotional distress and unhealthy coping mechanisms is important to create lasting change. My work focuses on a trauma informed approach and I work with individuals experiencing anxiety, depression, post traumatic stress, chronic stress and burnout and issues with self-esteem. I also offer sessions in German.
(03) 8400 0924 View (03) 8400 0924
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Dettie Onus Browne
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, AMHSW
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Northcote, VIC 3070
Hello, I’m Dettie, a white, non-binary queer and trans person living on the unceded land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. I’m a qualified social worker and therapist, providing counselling for individuals, couples, and families. I have an invested interest in working with neurodivergent people, LGBTIQA+ people and their families, survivors of conversion and suppression practices, people who have used violence in relationships and people who experience complex and/or relational trauma. I work with people of all genders, sexualities, religions/faiths and cultures.
Hello, I’m Dettie, a white, non-binary queer and trans person living on the unceded land of the Wurundjeri people of the Kulin Nation. I’m a qualified social worker and therapist, providing counselling for individuals, couples, and families. I have an invested interest in working with neurodivergent people, LGBTIQA+ people and their families, survivors of conversion and suppression practices, people who have used violence in relationships and people who experience complex and/or relational trauma. I work with people of all genders, sexualities, religions/faiths and cultures.
(03) 7302 2732 View (03) 7302 2732
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Ben Jackson
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
2 Endorsed
Northcote, VIC 3070
Ben has worked as a Clinical Psychologist in private practice for over 11 years. Prior to this, he worked extensively in the public mental health sector. He enjoys working with clients who experience anxiety disorders (including OCD, social anxiety, GAD, and panic), depression, interpersonal/relationship issues, low self-esteem, Borderline Personality Disorder, as well as clients who simply struggle with day-to-day life. Although Ben has a relaxed approach during his sessions, he prioritises working collaboratively with his clients to achieve positive outcomes as soon as possible. ​
Ben has worked as a Clinical Psychologist in private practice for over 11 years. Prior to this, he worked extensively in the public mental health sector. He enjoys working with clients who experience anxiety disorders (including OCD, social anxiety, GAD, and panic), depression, interpersonal/relationship issues, low self-esteem, Borderline Personality Disorder, as well as clients who simply struggle with day-to-day life. Although Ben has a relaxed approach during his sessions, he prioritises working collaboratively with his clients to achieve positive outcomes as soon as possible. ​
(03) 6118 7165 View (03) 6118 7165
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Gilchrist Clendinnen
Psychologist, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
I help clients develop a better understanding of the changes they would like to make in their life, and a plan for how to make them. I have a particular interest in working with clients with ADHD, anxiety depression, addiction and trauma.
I help clients develop a better understanding of the changes they would like to make in their life, and a plan for how to make them. I have a particular interest in working with clients with ADHD, anxiety depression, addiction and trauma.
(03) 7003 2043 View (03) 7003 2043
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Sherridan J Green
Psychotherapist, PACFA
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Sherridan is a Gestalt therapist and EMDR therapist, her personal style as a therapist is attentive, compassionate, and supportive. You will experience being listened to and responded to with curiosity and authenticity. She provides a safe and welcoming space for you to explore your deepest concerns. Sherridan supports individuals and couples on journeys of self-discovery through understanding vital areas of their lives, including emotional development, identity, responses to the world, awareness, process of enquiry, living skills, and capacity for self-responsibility.
Sherridan is a Gestalt therapist and EMDR therapist, her personal style as a therapist is attentive, compassionate, and supportive. You will experience being listened to and responded to with curiosity and authenticity. She provides a safe and welcoming space for you to explore your deepest concerns. Sherridan supports individuals and couples on journeys of self-discovery through understanding vital areas of their lives, including emotional development, identity, responses to the world, awareness, process of enquiry, living skills, and capacity for self-responsibility.
(03) 9118 9081 View (03) 9118 9081
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Jolene Moran
Psychotherapist, AThR
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Jolene is a registered creative arts therapist, choir leader, vocal coach and performing vocalist. Providing a safe space for participants to be expressive, she gently facilitates creative experiences and reflection upon what matters most. She works with adults of all gender identities, including NDIS clients, people managing everyday stress, burnout and those living with the effects of PTSD, grief, anxiety and depression.
Jolene is a registered creative arts therapist, choir leader, vocal coach and performing vocalist. Providing a safe space for participants to be expressive, she gently facilitates creative experiences and reflection upon what matters most. She works with adults of all gender identities, including NDIS clients, people managing everyday stress, burnout and those living with the effects of PTSD, grief, anxiety and depression.
(03) 7003 2109 View (03) 7003 2109
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Kyra Cox Counselling
Counsellor, MC, PACFA
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Our intimate relationships and the bonds we build with each other are an integral part of our physical and psychological wellbeing. Kyra offers an inclusive therapeutic service to both individuals and couples, looking to strengthen their relationships.
Our intimate relationships and the bonds we build with each other are an integral part of our physical and psychological wellbeing. Kyra offers an inclusive therapeutic service to both individuals and couples, looking to strengthen their relationships.
(03) 9118 9016 View (03) 9118 9016
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Sally Gottlieb
Psychotherapist, ACA-L2
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Northcote, VIC 3070
I am an integrative psychotherapist, working collaboratively with clients to explore their minds, life experiences, and goals. I endeavour to create safe, trusting, and empowering spaces for you to come into deeper self-awareness, self-compassion and resilience. I have a deep appreciation for the intricacy and complexity of what it means to be human, and see therapy as a powerful instrument for meeting ourselves, understanding our histories, and crafting widened narratives of possibility for our lives. Whether you wish to better cope with life's challenges, or understand yourself more wholly, therapy can support you.
I am an integrative psychotherapist, working collaboratively with clients to explore their minds, life experiences, and goals. I endeavour to create safe, trusting, and empowering spaces for you to come into deeper self-awareness, self-compassion and resilience. I have a deep appreciation for the intricacy and complexity of what it means to be human, and see therapy as a powerful instrument for meeting ourselves, understanding our histories, and crafting widened narratives of possibility for our lives. Whether you wish to better cope with life's challenges, or understand yourself more wholly, therapy can support you.
(03) 9118 9058 View (03) 9118 9058
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Meld Therapy
Counsellor, MA, ACA-L2
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Giorgia is a Melbourne-based holistic counsellor. Giorgia is registered with the Australian Counselling Association (ACA) and practices both counselling and psychotherapy. Giorgia is certified in Somatic Therapy for Complex Trauma and draws upon her qualifications in Counselling Psychology (MA) to ensure an integrative, person-centred and strengths based approach to therapy.
Giorgia is a Melbourne-based holistic counsellor. Giorgia is registered with the Australian Counselling Association (ACA) and practices both counselling and psychotherapy. Giorgia is certified in Somatic Therapy for Complex Trauma and draws upon her qualifications in Counselling Psychology (MA) to ensure an integrative, person-centred and strengths based approach to therapy.
(03) 7003 2395 View (03) 7003 2395
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Sudhir Dean
Counsellor, ACA-L3
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
I have worked with clients with a broad range of issues and with a broad range of backgrounds (substance use, homelessness, mental health, existential enquiry and much more). No matter what solution each person seeks, the starting point is always towards self-acceptance and increased awareness.
I have worked with clients with a broad range of issues and with a broad range of backgrounds (substance use, homelessness, mental health, existential enquiry and much more). No matter what solution each person seeks, the starting point is always towards self-acceptance and increased awareness.
(03) 7003 2419 View (03) 7003 2419
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Michelle Dennerstein
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Couns. Psych.
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070  (Online Only)
Michelle is a warm and compassionate psychologist, counsellor, and therapist, who works collaboratively with you to create a welcoming and safe counselling space. She supports and guides you towards a deeper understanding and insight of yourself and your situation, leading to personal growth, self-compassion, and deep transformation so that you can be freer to live your best life. With over 20 years of professional experience, Michelle has provided counselling services within diverse settings, including community health organizations, hospital outpatient services, and university environments.
Michelle is a warm and compassionate psychologist, counsellor, and therapist, who works collaboratively with you to create a welcoming and safe counselling space. She supports and guides you towards a deeper understanding and insight of yourself and your situation, leading to personal growth, self-compassion, and deep transformation so that you can be freer to live your best life. With over 20 years of professional experience, Michelle has provided counselling services within diverse settings, including community health organizations, hospital outpatient services, and university environments.
(03) 7003 2388 View (03) 7003 2388
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Mirra Seigerman Psychology
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
I provide evidence-based, individualised psychology services to help my clients make meaningful changes in their lives. I am a registered Clinical Psychologist and Board-Approved Supervisor, with a special interest in Schema Therapy, Cognitive Behaviour Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and Dialectical Behaviour Therapy. My approach to therapy is warm, empathic and genuine, and I strive to tailor my treatments to each individual client in order to provide the best possible outcomes. My goal is to help my clients to build the skills and insights they need to lead a more fulfilling life.
I provide evidence-based, individualised psychology services to help my clients make meaningful changes in their lives. I am a registered Clinical Psychologist and Board-Approved Supervisor, with a special interest in Schema Therapy, Cognitive Behaviour Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and Dialectical Behaviour Therapy. My approach to therapy is warm, empathic and genuine, and I strive to tailor my treatments to each individual client in order to provide the best possible outcomes. My goal is to help my clients to build the skills and insights they need to lead a more fulfilling life.
(03) 7003 2275 View (03) 7003 2275
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Catherine Dwyer - Clinical Psychologist
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Catherine Dwyer is a Clinical Psychologist with over 30 years of experience. She is a respected Senior Psychologist within the public mental health system. Catherine has worked as a private practitioner for the last 19 years. Catherine is skilled in treating mood disorders, trauma, grief and anger, and issues related to life adjustment, stress and relationship difficulties. Catherine is committed to providing evidence-based treatment to the people that she sees. Catherine is particularly interested in the application of the principles of neuroscience and neuroplasticity to therapeutic work.
Catherine Dwyer is a Clinical Psychologist with over 30 years of experience. She is a respected Senior Psychologist within the public mental health system. Catherine has worked as a private practitioner for the last 19 years. Catherine is skilled in treating mood disorders, trauma, grief and anger, and issues related to life adjustment, stress and relationship difficulties. Catherine is committed to providing evidence-based treatment to the people that she sees. Catherine is particularly interested in the application of the principles of neuroscience and neuroplasticity to therapeutic work.
(03) 7003 2240 View (03) 7003 2240
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Jason Brain
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
I am a clinical psychologist and psychology supervisor. In my 10 years of practice, I have developed skills and experience in offering trauma therapies (particularly to adults with childhood trauma), acceptance-focused therapies, and working with persons from queer communities. I offer a non-judgmental and accepting therapeutic space, where you can feel safe to explore the things that have been hard to figure out on your own. If you’re here, you’ve started looking for help, which is a good first step. Feel free to contact me for a chat, if you think we might work well together.
I am a clinical psychologist and psychology supervisor. In my 10 years of practice, I have developed skills and experience in offering trauma therapies (particularly to adults with childhood trauma), acceptance-focused therapies, and working with persons from queer communities. I offer a non-judgmental and accepting therapeutic space, where you can feel safe to explore the things that have been hard to figure out on your own. If you’re here, you’ve started looking for help, which is a good first step. Feel free to contact me for a chat, if you think we might work well together.
(03) 7003 2943 View (03) 7003 2943
Photo of Sarah Brooke, AMHSW, Clinical Social Work/Therapist
Sarah Brooke
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, AMHSW
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Sarah is a Somatic Psychotherapist and Art Therapist with specialist training in complex trauma. She has worked in this field for over 15 years. She has professional training in mindfulness-based somatic psychotherapy (Hakomi), Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Sensorimotor Art Therapy. Sarah has a passion for engagement with nature as a resource and inspiration, as well as using creativity, humour and compassionate curiosity. Her approach is strongly influenced by attachment and trauma theories, and therefore relationship is seen as key in the therapeutic process.
Sarah is a Somatic Psychotherapist and Art Therapist with specialist training in complex trauma. She has worked in this field for over 15 years. She has professional training in mindfulness-based somatic psychotherapy (Hakomi), Internal Family Systems (IFS) and Sensorimotor Art Therapy. Sarah has a passion for engagement with nature as a resource and inspiration, as well as using creativity, humour and compassionate curiosity. Her approach is strongly influenced by attachment and trauma theories, and therefore relationship is seen as key in the therapeutic process.
(03) 9068 6031 View (03) 9068 6031
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Ruth Elizabeth Willcox
Psychologist, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070
Ruth has been a Registered Psychologist for twenty years. She works from a client centred perspective placing importance on her individual therapeutic relationship with each client. She works to understand each client's unique challenges and goals and focuses on using strategies that are most effective to the situation. She is comfortable working from either a short term solution focused perspective or engaging in longer term therapy.
Ruth has been a Registered Psychologist for twenty years. She works from a client centred perspective placing importance on her individual therapeutic relationship with each client. She works to understand each client's unique challenges and goals and focuses on using strategies that are most effective to the situation. She is comfortable working from either a short term solution focused perspective or engaging in longer term therapy.
(03) 7003 2244 View (03) 7003 2244
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Dr Julien Tempone Wiltshire
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, PhD, AASW
Verified Verified
Northcote, VIC 3070  (Online Only)
I am an integrative psychotherapist specialising in somatic, psychodynamic, attachment-based approaches to trauma. I teach as a Senior Lecturer in Psychotherapy, and have taught Grief, Group Work, Trauma and Philosophy to Masters Students over a number of years. I am also trained as a Meditation Instructor, and publish as a Buddhist scholar in journals such as the Oxford Journal of Buddhist Studies, the Journal of Psychedelic Studies and the Journal of Consciousness Studies. I am a qualified social worker, PhD philosopher, and Transpersonal Psychotherapist
I am an integrative psychotherapist specialising in somatic, psychodynamic, attachment-based approaches to trauma. I teach as a Senior Lecturer in Psychotherapy, and have taught Grief, Group Work, Trauma and Philosophy to Masters Students over a number of years. I am also trained as a Meditation Instructor, and publish as a Buddhist scholar in journals such as the Oxford Journal of Buddhist Studies, the Journal of Psychedelic Studies and the Journal of Consciousness Studies. I am a qualified social worker, PhD philosopher, and Transpersonal Psychotherapist
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How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in 3070

100+

Average cost per session

$180

Counsellors in 3070 who prioritize treating:

93% Anxiety
89% Depression
80% Stress
79% Relationship Issues
77% Self Esteem
76% Trauma and PTSD
69% Life Transitions

Average years in practice

9 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

71% Medicare Rebates
47% Bupa
41% NDIS

How Counsellors in 3070 see their clients

89% In Person and Online
11% Online Only

Gender breakdown

71% Female
27% Male
2% Non-Binary
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in 3070?

Search for nearby psychologists or counsellors by inputting your city, suburb, postcode, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postcode into the search bar.

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Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are members of the main professional associations, mainly the Australian Counselling Association and the Psychotherapy and Counselling Federation of Australia. Psychologists must be registered in the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA). Most Social Workers listed in the directory are members of the Australian Association of Social Workers (AASW).

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given that professional memberships are not a statutory requirement for social workers, psychotherapists and counsellors in Australia, certain qualified professionals or organisations may choose not to maintain such memberships despite possessing the necessary qualifications. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Counsellors, psychotherapists and psychologists can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and experience that enable them to do so in Australia.

Psychologists have earned a 4 year undergraduate degree in psychology and have completed a postgraduate internship or postgraduate degree. Psychotherapists generally have an undergraduate degree in a health related field in addition to 3-4 years of specialist training in psychotherapy and a period of personal psychotherapy. In order to belong to a professional organisation such as the ACA or PACFA, counsellors and psychotherapists are required to have completed a certain level of AQF qualifications and/ or an approved training course as well as clinical and supervision hours. Social Workers registered with the AASW are required to have a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree in Social Work from an accredited institution.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, the cost of a therapy session in Australia could be between $100 and $250. If you have private insurance, your plan may cover some if not all of your sessions. You should contact your insurance provider to determine if they provide coverage for therapy sessions and to determine what, if any, requirements they might have in order for your sessions to be covered, such as a referral from your GP or medical specialist.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. The Better Access Scheme is a government program offering Medicare rebates for mental health care. To access the program you will need to be assessed and diagnosed by your GP and get a Mental Health Plan. This will allow you to receive up to 10 individual sessions and 10 group sessions a year with practitioners who accept bulk billing, with no out of pocket costs for you.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postcode.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Therapists who are part of a professional organisation such as the ACA, PACFA, or the APS are bound by an ethical framework that requires them to uphold a confidentiality agreement. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there is the potential or known harm to the client or others or when a minor is in danger, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.