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Ramona Lever
Counsellor, ACA-L2
Verified Verified
Hi, I'm Ramona. I've been counselling for 20+ years. I love empowering people and helping them to gain awareness around their emotions and mindset. My approach is based on the Mind, Body and Spirit connection. I believe that we need all parts of us to be working in harmony if we want to experience a life of health and happiness. I see clients in Hoppers Crossing from all over the Western Suburbs for General Counselling and Couples Counselling. I am taking new clients in 2024 and look forward to meeting you.
Hi, I'm Ramona. I've been counselling for 20+ years. I love empowering people and helping them to gain awareness around their emotions and mindset. My approach is based on the Mind, Body and Spirit connection. I believe that we need all parts of us to be working in harmony if we want to experience a life of health and happiness. I see clients in Hoppers Crossing from all over the Western Suburbs for General Counselling and Couples Counselling. I am taking new clients in 2024 and look forward to meeting you.
(03) 7302 8306 View (03) 7302 8306
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Lisa Formosa
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Truganina, VIC 3029  (Online Only)
Receive individualised support to create the life you choose. Choose a practitioner who understands Autism, ADHD, neurodivergence, high sensitivity and introversion. Share what its like inhabiting a world that hasn’t understood you. Develop your inner self knowledge. Access Neurodiversity Affirmative Practice.
Receive individualised support to create the life you choose. Choose a practitioner who understands Autism, ADHD, neurodivergence, high sensitivity and introversion. Share what its like inhabiting a world that hasn’t understood you. Develop your inner self knowledge. Access Neurodiversity Affirmative Practice.
(03) 7302 8068 View (03) 7302 8068
Abdelkerim Abdelkerim
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MA, AASW
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029  (Online Only)
Waitlist for new clients
Abdelkerim, a professional counselor with 14 years of experience, offers specialized services including EAP, workcover, bullying, anxiety, depression, trauma and faith-based relationship counseling. He tailors his counseling approach to meet each client's unique needs, drawing from evidence-based modalities as well as faith-based counselling. Fluent in English, Arabic, and Tigrinya, Abdelkerim effectively connects with a diverse clientele.
Abdelkerim, a professional counselor with 14 years of experience, offers specialized services including EAP, workcover, bullying, anxiety, depression, trauma and faith-based relationship counseling. He tailors his counseling approach to meet each client's unique needs, drawing from evidence-based modalities as well as faith-based counselling. Fluent in English, Arabic, and Tigrinya, Abdelkerim effectively connects with a diverse clientele.
(03) 7303 3831 View (03) 7303 3831
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Dr M Ala
Counsellor, PhD
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029
As a dedicated and compassionate counsellor, I support and empower clients to overcome challenges and achieve their aspirations. I specialize in providing a safe, nurturing environment where clients feel heard, valued, and understood. My client-centered approach focuses on individual needs to foster resilience and growth. My ideal client faces life transitions, stress, burnout, anxiety, depression, or relationship issues. They may feel overwhelmed and need guidance to navigate their emotions, find clarity, develop coping strategies, and achieve balance and well-being. They seek a non-judgmental, empathetic counsellor with expertise.
As a dedicated and compassionate counsellor, I support and empower clients to overcome challenges and achieve their aspirations. I specialize in providing a safe, nurturing environment where clients feel heard, valued, and understood. My client-centered approach focuses on individual needs to foster resilience and growth. My ideal client faces life transitions, stress, burnout, anxiety, depression, or relationship issues. They may feel overwhelmed and need guidance to navigate their emotions, find clarity, develop coping strategies, and achieve balance and well-being. They seek a non-judgmental, empathetic counsellor with expertise.
(08) 7008 7575 View (08) 7008 7575
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Holistic Counselling Service.
Clinical Social Work/Therapist, MA, AMHSW
Verified Verified
Truganina, VIC 3029
Many clients are presented with psychological and emotional symptoms of depression and anxiety disorders. These symptoms are usually a manifestations of underlying issues and unhappiness they may have been experiencing. They often sought help to get relief from such symptoms. In collaboration with the client, assessment and goal formulation, the underlying issues maybe identified and dealt with.
Many clients are presented with psychological and emotional symptoms of depression and anxiety disorders. These symptoms are usually a manifestations of underlying issues and unhappiness they may have been experiencing. They often sought help to get relief from such symptoms. In collaboration with the client, assessment and goal formulation, the underlying issues maybe identified and dealt with.
(03) 8595 5367 View (03) 8595 5367
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Holistic Self with Zee
Counsellor, MSc, ACA-L3
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029
Growing up, I was always an empathetic person who really valued relationships and loved helping people. My desire to understand human behaviour through life experiences and providing guidance to resolve problems, has drawn me to the profession of counselling. I am privileged to work with children of all ages, through to adults, facing different challenges in life. I believe in making a strong rapport with my clients and helping them towards a better tomorrow.
Growing up, I was always an empathetic person who really valued relationships and loved helping people. My desire to understand human behaviour through life experiences and providing guidance to resolve problems, has drawn me to the profession of counselling. I am privileged to work with children of all ages, through to adults, facing different challenges in life. I believe in making a strong rapport with my clients and helping them towards a better tomorrow.
(03) 7303 3007 View (03) 7303 3007
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AbilityEd Counselling
Counsellor, ACA-L2
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Truganina, VIC 3029  (Online Only)
I provide online, text or phone counselling, so you feel safe in your own space. I have 35yrs experience in Counselling, Social Welfare, Education, NDIS, TAC, & Workcover fields, specialising in supporting teens & adults with complex needs &/or disabilities. I aim to empower people to gain practical strategies so they can learn to live well independently, despite the complexity of their concerns. My counselling approach is practical, using tools from several proven therapeutic approaches that are based on each individual person's, specific goals & needs. You decide your own goals, WE, then work together. You are not alone in this..
I provide online, text or phone counselling, so you feel safe in your own space. I have 35yrs experience in Counselling, Social Welfare, Education, NDIS, TAC, & Workcover fields, specialising in supporting teens & adults with complex needs &/or disabilities. I aim to empower people to gain practical strategies so they can learn to live well independently, despite the complexity of their concerns. My counselling approach is practical, using tools from several proven therapeutic approaches that are based on each individual person's, specific goals & needs. You decide your own goals, WE, then work together. You are not alone in this..
(03) 7302 2398 View (03) 7302 2398
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Person Centred Psychology
Psychologist, MPsych, MAPS
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Deborah is an experienced Clinical Psychology with a particular interest in Eating Disorders, Depression, Anxiety, and Grief. She works with a diverse population, seeing adult women and men. Deborah provides a compassionate and evidence informed treatment. In addition to her therapeutic work, she teaches masters level clinical psychology students, and has an interest in eating disorder prevention. Deborah is the founder of Person Centred Psychology & Allied Health in South Melbourne, where she has built her practice of psychologists and dietitians to provide evidence informed person centred care to all clients.
Deborah is an experienced Clinical Psychology with a particular interest in Eating Disorders, Depression, Anxiety, and Grief. She works with a diverse population, seeing adult women and men. Deborah provides a compassionate and evidence informed treatment. In addition to her therapeutic work, she teaches masters level clinical psychology students, and has an interest in eating disorder prevention. Deborah is the founder of Person Centred Psychology & Allied Health in South Melbourne, where she has built her practice of psychologists and dietitians to provide evidence informed person centred care to all clients.
(03) 9069 8752 View (03) 9069 8752
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Beyond Barriers Care
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029
I am a registered Psychologist working at Beyond Barriers Care which is a mental health care organisation. Beyond Barriers Care offers a wide range of psychological services to individuals who are seeking support and assistance with various mental health concerns. I have experience working with a wide range of presentations and diverse populations. I have immediate availability for Psychology appointments for children, adolescents, and adults at Beyond Barriers Care. The psychological services I offer include mental health and cognitive assessments, counselling and intervention, and psychological reports and letters of support.
I am a registered Psychologist working at Beyond Barriers Care which is a mental health care organisation. Beyond Barriers Care offers a wide range of psychological services to individuals who are seeking support and assistance with various mental health concerns. I have experience working with a wide range of presentations and diverse populations. I have immediate availability for Psychology appointments for children, adolescents, and adults at Beyond Barriers Care. The psychological services I offer include mental health and cognitive assessments, counselling and intervention, and psychological reports and letters of support.
(03) 7302 2333 View (03) 7302 2333
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Tracey Yeoman
Counsellor, ACA-L2
Verified Verified
Tracey is the founder of Kitsune Coaching Solutions; her vision is to help all people find their balance for a better quality of life. Her ideal client may be struggling with authenticity, confidence, and life challenges: They may be exploring their Identity, learning to set boundaries, wanting to learn techniques to manage stress, building self-esteem and learning communication techniques. Tracey specialises in neurodiverse people who may not fit the sociological norms and need an open-hearted, accepting facilitator to help them achieve their personal goals.
Tracey is the founder of Kitsune Coaching Solutions; her vision is to help all people find their balance for a better quality of life. Her ideal client may be struggling with authenticity, confidence, and life challenges: They may be exploring their Identity, learning to set boundaries, wanting to learn techniques to manage stress, building self-esteem and learning communication techniques. Tracey specialises in neurodiverse people who may not fit the sociological norms and need an open-hearted, accepting facilitator to help them achieve their personal goals.
(03) 7302 8373 View (03) 7302 8373
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Helen Richardson
Verified Verified
As a registered play therapist, I am passionate about enabling children to reach their full potential and assisting them to develop resilience, self-esteem and a sense of self via the power of play. I have been involved with helping individuals and families all my working life within roles both in Australia and England, including positions in schools, not for profit agencies and private practice. Play is the natural language of children and through play children express and explore their emotions and behaviours. Please explore my website www.blueballoon.com.au
As a registered play therapist, I am passionate about enabling children to reach their full potential and assisting them to develop resilience, self-esteem and a sense of self via the power of play. I have been involved with helping individuals and families all my working life within roles both in Australia and England, including positions in schools, not for profit agencies and private practice. Play is the natural language of children and through play children express and explore their emotions and behaviours. Please explore my website www.blueballoon.com.au
(03) 7302 8538 View (03) 7302 8538
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Rohita Atri - People Psychology
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Org. Psych.
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029
Rohita Atri is a registered psychologist with over 16 years’ experience. Her key interests lie in supporting clients in emotional management, anxiety, stress and depression. Due to working and living in a number of countries, Rohita appreciates the impact of culture in families and can support cross cultural clients navigate through difficulties in adjusting in school or the workplace. Rohita is very experienced in dealing with workplace challenges and also experienced in supporting clients through stress, anxiety and depression.
Rohita Atri is a registered psychologist with over 16 years’ experience. Her key interests lie in supporting clients in emotional management, anxiety, stress and depression. Due to working and living in a number of countries, Rohita appreciates the impact of culture in families and can support cross cultural clients navigate through difficulties in adjusting in school or the workplace. Rohita is very experienced in dealing with workplace challenges and also experienced in supporting clients through stress, anxiety and depression.
(03) 7003 2992 View (03) 7003 2992
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CUE- Support & Counselling
Counsellor, AACBT
Verified Verified
CUE stands for Compassion, Understanding, Empathy as these are the principles which guide my practice and work ethic.
CUE stands for Compassion, Understanding, Empathy as these are the principles which guide my practice and work ethic.
(03) 8104 9335 View (03) 8104 9335
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Sonder Counselling Services
Counsellor, MA, ACA-L3
Verified Verified
My areas of interest revolve around the impacts of early trauma, various grief, and loss experiences and life transitions. Which may impact the everyday functioning of an individual. Having the opportunity to discuss these experiences, the complexities of life transitions and/or unresolved grief and loss and how you have been impacted. At times, we all experience stress, and, anxiety, which can create depressive symptoms. This is extremely relevant at this time due to COVID-19. It is scary, it is unknown territory and we are all going through the same fears. Counsellors can support you through this.
My areas of interest revolve around the impacts of early trauma, various grief, and loss experiences and life transitions. Which may impact the everyday functioning of an individual. Having the opportunity to discuss these experiences, the complexities of life transitions and/or unresolved grief and loss and how you have been impacted. At times, we all experience stress, and, anxiety, which can create depressive symptoms. This is extremely relevant at this time due to COVID-19. It is scary, it is unknown territory and we are all going through the same fears. Counsellors can support you through this.
(08) 9126 9072 View (08) 9126 9072
Photo of Julian O'Sullivan, MPsych, PsyBA General, Psychologist
Julian O'Sullivan
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA General
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029
Julian's focus is on adult (18+) mental health. He provides treatment for various forms of psychological distress including anxiety, depression, personality disorders, eating disorders, trauma and stressor related disorders, and addictive behaviours. He works with clients experiencing grief and loss, identity and existential crisis, social alienation, isolation and loneliness. He is interested in helping those with difficulties in relationships, work stress, or managing distressing emotions.
Julian's focus is on adult (18+) mental health. He provides treatment for various forms of psychological distress including anxiety, depression, personality disorders, eating disorders, trauma and stressor related disorders, and addictive behaviours. He works with clients experiencing grief and loss, identity and existential crisis, social alienation, isolation and loneliness. He is interested in helping those with difficulties in relationships, work stress, or managing distressing emotions.
(03) 7003 2798 View (03) 7003 2798
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Clare Randall
Counsellor, ACA-L4
Verified Verified
I am kind, experienced, practical and a good listener. I work with adults either as individuals or couples. I see girls 16+. Most of my clients are struggling either with their emotions, with something that has happened, or with other people in their life. My goal is to give you a calm, safe space where hopefully you will walk out a little lighter, with more clarity and a plan if you need one. I am a licensed counsellor and therapist. If you have a Mental Health Plan from your GP you will need a psychologist and there will be an approx $120+ gap fee payable. I am happy to work with you privately if you choose not to use your MHP.
I am kind, experienced, practical and a good listener. I work with adults either as individuals or couples. I see girls 16+. Most of my clients are struggling either with their emotions, with something that has happened, or with other people in their life. My goal is to give you a calm, safe space where hopefully you will walk out a little lighter, with more clarity and a plan if you need one. I am a licensed counsellor and therapist. If you have a Mental Health Plan from your GP you will need a psychologist and there will be an approx $120+ gap fee payable. I am happy to work with you privately if you choose not to use your MHP.
(08) 9126 9483 View (08) 9126 9483
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Patricia (Patty) Mclean
Counsellor, ACA-L1
Verified Verified
1 Endorsed
Tarneit, VIC 3029
Need help and support? Together we can relax, reflect and collaborate to achieve your goals. My counselling, leadership and early years qualifications, 30+ years of experience working with families and children, as a mother with 3 (now mature) children, living and working in a richly diverse community, across multiple countries all helps. I am experienced with customers, families and children with complex needs, anxiety, grief and here to listen, support and take time to help you as an individual become that confident expert in your own life.
Need help and support? Together we can relax, reflect and collaborate to achieve your goals. My counselling, leadership and early years qualifications, 30+ years of experience working with families and children, as a mother with 3 (now mature) children, living and working in a richly diverse community, across multiple countries all helps. I am experienced with customers, families and children with complex needs, anxiety, grief and here to listen, support and take time to help you as an individual become that confident expert in your own life.
(03) 7302 2790 View (03) 7302 2790
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Riana Losung
Psychologist, MPsych, PsyBA - Org. Psych.
Verified Verified
I am passionate about helping clients deepen their understanding of themselves and how past experiences influence how they feel and cope with challenges. I have a warm, genuine approach which allows therapy to be a space where you can feel comfortable and supported while sharing difficult issues. My goal is to help you to gain new perspectives and build skills that aim to support your wellbeing and therapy needs. I work with adults dealing with many different issues and challenges. I also work with clients in the field of emergency services and within the Defence Force.
I am passionate about helping clients deepen their understanding of themselves and how past experiences influence how they feel and cope with challenges. I have a warm, genuine approach which allows therapy to be a space where you can feel comfortable and supported while sharing difficult issues. My goal is to help you to gain new perspectives and build skills that aim to support your wellbeing and therapy needs. I work with adults dealing with many different issues and challenges. I also work with clients in the field of emergency services and within the Defence Force.
(03) 7003 2443 View (03) 7003 2443
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Preeti Phartiyal - Clinical Psychologist - People Psychology
Psychologist, PsyBA - Clin. Psych
Verified Verified
Tarneit, VIC 3029
Preeti is a Clinical Psychologist specialising in working with adults aged 18 and older. Preeti’s aim is to provide a compassionate and non-judgmental space where clients can explore their thoughts, feelings, and experiences. Her goal is to take clients on a journey of self discovery to get a better understanding of their behaviours, ways of relating to self, others and the world. She is dedicated to helping clients connect with their inner strength to overcome challenges, develop resilience, confidently express their needs, and uncover a deep and lasting sense of fulfillment in every aspect of their lives.
Preeti is a Clinical Psychologist specialising in working with adults aged 18 and older. Preeti’s aim is to provide a compassionate and non-judgmental space where clients can explore their thoughts, feelings, and experiences. Her goal is to take clients on a journey of self discovery to get a better understanding of their behaviours, ways of relating to self, others and the world. She is dedicated to helping clients connect with their inner strength to overcome challenges, develop resilience, confidently express their needs, and uncover a deep and lasting sense of fulfillment in every aspect of their lives.
(03) 7003 2494 View (03) 7003 2494
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Zen Tebeje
Counsellor
Verified Verified
Zen is a certified Counsellor dedicated to helping individuals navigate life's challenges. With a compassionate and client-centred approach, she provides a safe space for you to explore and overcome your concerns. She specialises in mental health support, offering guidance for issues like depression, anxiety, grief, relationships, life coaching, trauma, and stress management. Additionally, she provides expert career counselling & NDIS support. Zen’s approach is client-centred, creating a personalised plan for your unique needs.
Zen is a certified Counsellor dedicated to helping individuals navigate life's challenges. With a compassionate and client-centred approach, she provides a safe space for you to explore and overcome your concerns. She specialises in mental health support, offering guidance for issues like depression, anxiety, grief, relationships, life coaching, trauma, and stress management. Additionally, she provides expert career counselling & NDIS support. Zen’s approach is client-centred, creating a personalised plan for your unique needs.
(03) 7003 2607 View (03) 7003 2607
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How does your Counsellor compare?

Number of Counsellors in 3029

40+

Average cost per session

$145

Counsellors in 3029 who prioritize treating:

95% Anxiety
93% Stress
90% Depression
83% Self Esteem
80% Coping Skills
78% Trauma and PTSD
73% Relationship Issues

Average years in practice

7 Years

Top 3 insurances accepted

68% NDIS
36% Bupa
36% Medibank Private

How Counsellors in 3029 see their clients

80% In Person and Online
20% Online Only

Gender breakdown

82% Female
18% Male
FAQs - About Therapy and Counselling

How can I find a therapist in 3029?

Search for nearby psychologists or counsellors by inputting your city, suburb, postcode, or a provider’s name into the search bar. From there, you can filter providers by the issues they treat, cost, insurance, gender, and other factors to find providers who are well-suited to your needs. To navigate between locations within the same country, enter a new city or postcode into the search bar.

Learn more about how to find a therapist

Is everyone in the Psychology Today Therapy Directory a licensed therapist?

Counsellors and Psychotherapists listed in the directory are members of the main professional associations, mainly the Australian Counselling Association and the Psychotherapy and Counselling Federation of Australia. Psychologists must be registered in the Australian Health Practitioner Regulation Agency (AHPRA). Most Social Workers listed in the directory are members of the Australian Association of Social Workers (AASW).

Providers whose professional membership or primary credential has been verified by Psychology Today are signified by a “Verified” symbol. Given that professional memberships are not a statutory requirement for social workers, psychotherapists and counsellors in Australia, certain qualified professionals or organisations may choose not to maintain such memberships despite possessing the necessary qualifications. They may be selectively included without the “Verified” seal.

What’s the difference between a psychologist, a therapist, and a counsellor?

Counsellors, psychotherapists and psychologists can all provide counselling or talking therapy and have credentials and experience that enable them to do so in Australia.

Psychologists have earned a 4 year undergraduate degree in psychology and have completed a postgraduate internship or postgraduate degree. Psychotherapists generally have an undergraduate degree in a health related field in addition to 3-4 years of specialist training in psychotherapy and a period of personal psychotherapy. In order to belong to a professional organisation such as the ACA or PACFA, counsellors and psychotherapists are required to have completed a certain level of AQF qualifications and/ or an approved training course as well as clinical and supervision hours. Social Workers registered with the AASW are required to have a Bachelor’s or Master’s degree in Social Work from an accredited institution.

What type of therapy is right for me?

The type of therapy best suited to a particular individual depends on several factors, including their primary reason for seeking therapy, their preferred timeline (some therapy types last for a set number of sessions, while others are open-ended), and their personality and preferences—some may prefer a more structured approach. For many individuals, multiple types of therapy could provide a good fit.

How much does therapy cost?

The cost of therapy depends on a number of variables, including location and the therapist’s experience and training. On average, the cost of a therapy session in Australia could be between $100 and $250. If you have private insurance, your plan may cover some if not all of your sessions. You should contact your insurance provider to determine if they provide coverage for therapy sessions and to determine what, if any, requirements they might have in order for your sessions to be covered, such as a referral from your GP or medical specialist.

What are more affordable or low cost therapy solutions?

Many therapists offer sliding scale payments, usually on a limited number of slots, which consists in an agreement between the therapist and a client to pay a reduced rate. Therapists who provide such arrangements often consider the client's income or ability to pay, but the extent of the discount is ultimately at the therapist's discretion. Furthermore, while group therapy may have different goals and benefits compared to individual therapy, it can be a more affordable solution to address certain types of issues.

If you are struggling to access therapy due to budget constraints, you could also consider public funded mental health services. The Better Access Scheme is a government program offering Medicare rebates for mental health care. To access the program you will need to be assessed and diagnosed by your GP and get a Mental Health Plan. This will allow you to receive up to 10 individual sessions and 10 group sessions a year with practitioners who accept bulk billing, with no out of pocket costs for you.

Is online therapy cheaper than in-person therapy?

Many therapists charge the same amount for online therapy as they do for in-person therapy—though clients may still find this cost-effective if it cuts down on their transportation costs. Health insurance plans often offer equivalent coverage for online and in-person therapy; indeed, in many places, they are legally required to do so. Text-based or on-demand therapy apps may be cheaper than traditional one-on-one psychotherapy; however, the practice may be less effective and is not likely to be covered by insurance.

Is online therapy a good option?

Therapy conducted online can be just as effective as in-person therapy, as long as there is a strong alliance between the client and the therapist. To find a therapist who provides telehealth services to clients in your area, click “Online Therapy” on the directory homepage and search by your city or town or your postcode.

Are therapy sessions confidential?

Therapists who are part of a professional organisation such as the ACA, PACFA, or the APS are bound by an ethical framework that requires them to uphold a confidentiality agreement. Confidentiality is a crucial part of the therapeutic relationship and only under specific circumstances, such as when there is the potential or known harm to the client or others or when a minor is in danger, will a therapist be obligated to break the agreement. These exceptions to the confidentiality agreement are usually discussed during the initial consultation.